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Jetbrains succeeds because of their products, not their advertising. Mostly, I suppose. It was the mayan end of the world sale in 2012 that lowered the price point enough for me to make my first purchase from them.

They're probably the only tool that I pay money for, and I'm generally happy to do so, because I get a ton of value from it.

My only complaint is in a polyglot environment it can be painful to have multiple jetbrains ides running in the same project root.

A number of years ago they shipped all of the different products as plugins to intellij. unfortunately at some point that stopped. I wish they resolve it, because it's slowly driving me to vscode.

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> A number of years ago they shipped all of the different products as plugins to intellij. unfortunately at some point that stopped. I wish they resolve it, because it's slowly driving me to vscode.

Did they stop? I still use IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate for most languages (Go, Java, Rust, JavaScript/TypeScript). I had to use Rider for C#, AppCode for Swift, and CLion for C/C++, but those are the only special cases afaik, or are those languages the ones you use & have problems with?

The plugin updates are sometimes a bit behind the dedicated IDEs in terms of feature releases which is annoying but I think you can often download an EAP build to get around that.

I've been under the impression that there are significant capability differences between any of the plugins and the corresponding product

I mainly use goland & clion, and clion definitely doens't have an equivalent plugin. It's been a long time since I've tried to use intellij though, so perhaps my impressions are antiquated.

You're right that you'd have to use clion for C/C++. I'm not sure why they don't have plugins for that.

As far as Go, I've had a great experience with the Go plugin for IntelliJ. You do need the ultimate license for that though, iirc.

The upside of different IDEs is they can change the keymaps and various options to cater for language specific preferences.

My issue is the things they just don't do, Jupyter Notebooks, more than anything else.

This is same for me. It was great value in 2012 and product was good enough to keep using. I subscribed to Resharper before that but now use the other products like datalink. The fact that a personal license can be used at work also helped my adoption of the tools.

> The fact that a personal license can be used at work also helped my adoption of the tools.

Same here, and because of that I sub to the All Products bundle, while if I had to convince my employer it would be for PyCharm only. The Personal All Products license is $50 more per year than a Corporate Single Language license.

Gaining a perpetual license after 1 year of subscription also makes the subscription an easier pill for me to swallow.

> I wish they resolve it, because it's slowly driving me to vscode.

The good news is that their new Fleet product has it all in one again.

The bad news is that it’s not anywhere near production ready (not at a point where it can compete with any of their othet products anyway).

This is a forgotten time, and an important loss.

It would really be lovely if the Jetbrains all-in license gave you each product as its own standalone and as an IntelliJ plug-in.

Aren’t the specific ides just plugins loaded into rebranded IntelliJ?

To some extent probably, but I guess not completely. That’s why you don’t have everything everywhere.

Only very few companies can build a working business model without a good product.

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