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What do we do when there is no wind?

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If there's a continent scale lack of wind in Europe I would be more afraid about the general state of our sun.

Try find a windless day here.

https://www.windy.com/?50.345,6.328,3

You mean like half of 2021? https://theconversation.com/what-europes-exceptionally-low-w...

We of course need to overbuild. You can do x4 for off shore wind and still come out ahead of nuclear. That map also corresponds to the time of year solar works 16 hours per day in Europe. It also shows that France Italy and the eastern part of the Baltics had more wind than usual.

Wind capacity regularly drops below 10% in Poland. https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/PL

Poland is about the worst country in the EU for on-shore wind so a very cherrypicked counter example.

Do you have numbers for off-shore parks along the Baltic coast? That would be much more interesting.

Again... what do you do, when there's no wind along the baltic coast? Even a single windless night? Do you turn peoples power off, until it starts blowing again?

Wind on the north sea? Or northern Baltic? Or Swedish or Norwegian hydro? Or alps based hydro?

We are talking about a continent scale grid.

If we'll be fully dependant on other countries for our energy this will never pass. Energy independency is a must.

So I presume you are for Poland to exit the EU also? I am not talking about relying on Russia here.

Why, does it forbid energy independency somehow?

And what's wrong with idea that we shouldn't freely give other countries leverage on us?

Thanks for the article, I didn't know climate models estimated EU will have less wind, I expected we would get more wind.

That being said, the article is pretty low on numbers. The only actual number shown is -32% in UK. Which can totally be overcome by having 5x overproduction in whole of Europe.

> in whole of Europe

was presumably the answer to that. Now of course one does need a proper analysis of weather patterns (wind+sun) over the whole of Europe over the long term to know how well it would actually work. But it is a fairly large area.

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