- Native reader mode
- Native PiP mode for videos
Yes, you can get extensions for this in Chrom(e/ium) but having these as a native feature is really nice.
Things I want to see in Firefox:
- Good/extensible keybindings
- Tab groups
- Tab search
EDIT: How do I break sentences to newline in HN without really making a new paragraph? You know, for bullet points, etc.
Tab search exists: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., also you type % into the address bar to start searching over tabs. Not sure if this covers your needs, though.
Privacy and ad-blocking are great, but I could see myself being lazy and switching to a browser with a better UX, if one existed. But you'll have to take Tree Style Tabs from my cold, dead hands
(I'm aware of Orion, but when I last used it I found it to still have performance and polish issues)
Someone in Chrome/Edge/Safari must be thinking about doing this, I don't know why it hasn't been cloned. Can't be too hard to do.
with TST whenever I need to reorder/re-group things, it's a pain (I still appreciate TST a lot)
> I don't know why it hasn't been cloned
opera had vertical, grouped tabs over twenty years ago.
Which raises the question: why would FF sabotage it? Why isn't it easy to hide the default tabs, and why does the sidebar have the name of the extension providing it stuck at the top?
They had all of the warning in the world about how important this extension was to people years before finally removing XUL, half a decade later you still can only repair the display problems through CSS that isn't kept consistent from version to version, and feature requests/bug reports on the issue are filled with antagonism from the project.
Is it this one?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...
No - it is figuratively the killer feature.
If it were literally the killer function this would be a very different discussion.
vs
> (literally the killer) feature
A "killer feature" is a phrase with its own meaning so we can treat it as an atom and apply modifiers to it. The order of operations matters, and I posit that the OP placed their imaginary parentheses as I did in my first example.
Easy, most people never use more than five or six tabs because it’s annoying to have more. TST is a solution to a marginal use case so no one invests the time into developing it.
but most useful is the auto-grouping of child tabs anyways
And Tree Tabs felt like a better Tree Style Tabs (but there were no bugfixes in past 4 years).
Though very rarely Sideberry looses/forgets the tree structure of tabs, and I have to restore it from one of the recent snapshots (which it creates every day automatically).
1. Go to `about:config` and set toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets true
2. Go to `about:support` and find your profile folder
3. Create subfolder `chrome` there
4. Create file `userChrome.css` in `chrome` folder
5. Put this text in it:
#main-window #TabsToolbar {
visibility: collapse !important;
}https://gist.github.com/wlonkly/6c21134adbdeb6eb257f52076bc3...
and it gives me a nice and minimalist UI consisting of just-dense-enough tab titles, with the current tab highlighted. Looks like so:
https://gist.github.com/ruanbekker/f800e098936b27c7cf956c560...
https://superuser.com/questions/1424478/can-i-hide-native-ta...
https://medium.com/@Aenon/firefox-hide-native-tabs-and-title...
/r/firefoxcss is great for asking questions regarding how to customize TST https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/search?q=tst&restrict_sr...
That's possible by editing userChrome.css. I don't remember the exact incantations, but I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in TST's docs and/or settings page.
*https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
This fixes most of the links on HN for me - I'm one of those people who doesn't like the browser to save anything, so every time I visit a site it's for the first time - so anyway reader mode just cuts right through all the shit in one click, no cookie banners, no subscribe banners, no interruption banners, it gets straight to the content if it's there (sometimes even cuts through shallow front end paywalls) - honestly if the site looks horrible and reader mode doesn't work, close tab - can't be arsed.
It also makes far better use of screen space than most site designs, e.g those common yet horrible headers with css position: sticky. Pretty much every big news site is made better by pulling any content into reader mode.
% - Tab search
^ - History search
* - Bookmark search
Blank line / new paragraph is really the only option. Short bullet points might look better with the "code" option of preceding with two spaces, like:
- this
- that
Blank lines separate paragraphs.
Text surrounded by asterisks is italicized. To get a literal asterisk, use * or *.
Text after a blank line that is indented by two or more spaces is reproduced verbatim. (This is intended for code.)
Urls become links, except in the text field of a submission.
If your url gets linked incorrectly, put it in <angle brackets> and it should work.
Alt-7 on the number pad give you a bullet "•", Alt-0151 an em dash "—"
There's been an open issue for 7 years asking for a shortcut key for the eyedropper[0]. The navigation between developer panels is also a bit tedious. The page focus key, F6, is not configurable.
These are some instances I was thinking when I said I wanted good keybinding support. I'll be really willing to try an extension that achieves these but it's really the browser's job.
With that said, I've tried a bunch of these extensions in the past! I'm not a vim guy so I settled with Link Hints[1] for in-page navigation. I cannot recommend it enough for non-vim guys. It's really underrated.
0: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 1: https://lydell.github.io/LinkHints/
JFYI, Alt+D and Ctrl+L also work.
I've discovered that "ctrl-f esc" also works; focus goes back to the page when the search bar closes. Convenient if you have capslock remapped to escape.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortc... is a little hidden, but gives you at least some flexibility.
> Tab search
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo..., I use % in the address bar very regularly.
I use * for bookmarks and ^ for history but have never known about this. :)
Thanks!
And yes, I do use extension shortcuts. Can't imagine my life without Bitwarden or Tab Stash keybindings.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177108 to know what I actually meant.
Please no. I actually switched to Firefox on mobile just because I couldn't get tab groups to stay disabled in Chrome.
I think the current design is ugly. The way Edge handles them in the vertical tabs sidebar looks a lot better than the way other Chromium derivatives handle them in the tab strip, but still not the best. I like Vivaldi's implementation better, but the UI is relatively laggy. I miss old Opera.
(Thanks in advance for the solution. I mostly use Firefox anyway)
But on the downside no translate tool (though I read it is coming).
Operates entirely offline.
Bonus points for it being offline.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-trans...
I've been using Brave for a while and I'm considering going back to FF, partly to get out of Chromium.
However, this is a point I don't get. What do I care if these features are native or plug-ins? My Brave plugins are synced, so whenever I install Brave and set it up I immediately. If the plugin is well done, there is no difference, and for people who don't care about that particular feature it could be less bloat to have it on a feature.
Specifically for the Reader mode, the Chromium Addon I use comes from the Firefox code for the same functionality, so it's just as good. Kudos to FF, OSS is awesome.
Really wondering why this is so neglected in all browsers. I know quite a few users that like to accidentally press CTRL + T when trying to write a capital T after sitting 2h on a site to put in some info.
It is good that browsers grow more sceptical of sites capturing hotkeys, but some sites really benefit from the question if you really want to leave that page. As far as I know this is the only long-term supported solution. Restoring tab might work but not on all sites.
two leading spaces changes text to code formatting
perhaps lines are closer together here.Tab search, keybinds, and many many other handy stuff, can be done in vimperator.
I went back to Windows after almost 2 years for work and MS has managed to bloat it too. Don't understand why I need a Math solver. Edge bar is annoying. Favorites and bookmarks are 2 separate things?
I turned them all off obviously but defaults matter.
What turned me off from it was when I lost a year's worth of (unimportant) bookmarks and history. One day I opened it up and it decided to kindly sign me in automatically (probably detected I was signed into an MS site in-browser), and it wanted to automatically sync all my history, auto-fill info and passwords to Microsoft's sync servers. I immediately disconnected my account to stop this, and then it deleted my Edge profile afterwards as a further courtesy.
I understand that these two behaviors are probably Features, but I don't like the feeling of losing control of my software. And now these features like MSFT Rewards, coupon services, credit card services, and the "Bing Bar" (or whatever you call it) are just too much for me. Not to mention every PC I use Edge on tends to assault my eyes with political propaganda since Edge's New Tab page defaults to biased news outlets.
browser.urlbar.suggest.calculator
browser.urlbar.unitConversion.enabled
Both essentially have the idea of "spaces" for web browsers.
https://knowtechie.com/how-to-enable-google-chrome-reader-mo...
The unremovable "floating" controls are visually distracting.
Especially since I have to rely upon the browser for most 3rd party services due to the lack of a proper Linux client.
But running Firefox on Linux mobile has largely been a community effort, I wish Mozilla realizes the need-gap and invests in official Linux smartphone version.
But I'm actively moving away from 3rd party extensions in FF as I found a recommended extension promoting anti-vaccine agenda[1], The only extensions I use now are ub & Multi-account containers. I would prefer if FF integrated them by default and thorough reviews for recommended extensions.
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20210924045611/https://github.co...
Coworkers look at me like I’m a freak because I usually keep fewer than 10 tabs open :)
Same here, and I don’t even use bookmarks! History and custom search shortcuts are enough.
maybe sometime will come the realisation that a tab, a bookmark and a history entry are basically the same
Haha! That's me. My maximum is 15 and then my cleanliness ghost kicks in. I said tab groups because I like organization even if it's just 10 tabs. I honestly don't know why I said tab search.
The former don't preserve login state (and site state in general) or scroll position, navigating between them requires an internet connection and often uses significant data (important when working from a metered and/or unreliable connection like on a train or plane), just to name a few differences.
I do use bookmarks for longer term organization but my workspace is all handled in tab groups.
I don't use groups (I liked them when tab groups were a feature of Firefox). I search for tabs by typing stuff in the awesome bar, that works.
I always have a lot of tabs and kill everything from times to times. But it's nice to reach a tab that's already loaded when you need it, instead of reloading the page every time, making a network access, using resources and having to wait. A page being already open is also a hint that it's something I accessed recently and that it's most likely the thing I need.
I don't want to waste my time managing bookmarks (actually the sibling comment from lamacase captures my view very well on this). That's not how I use a browser. But it's good they are there for people like you who find a use for it.
For persisting state, it’s simple. You don’t. History is going to send you back where you were if the url scheme is not brain dead. I will personally stop using sites which don’t do that properly because they are annoying to use.
For forms I just fill them when I need to or keep them open for a bit if I forget I would need some information which I need to check. If I realise it’s going to take some time, I just close them and fill them properly when I have all I need.
I have no idea why nobody uses bookmarks and everybody keeps hundreds of tabs open. When did that start? Who even has the RAM for that? How do you even click on them when they’re that tiny? So many things just don’t make sense.
Thus I would expect most people have the RAM unless they're on a yesteryear SBC.
FWIW, I have 128GB of RAM, and fully utilize it.