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Given that Germany ignored decades of warnings about this, let them take the brunt of the cuts.

Technically they didn't ignore the warnings, they actively laughed at them: https://twitter.com/marcusgilmer/status/1044604107997237249?...

There are so many people who want to see ordinary Germans suffer for decisions their government made. Do you think the pensioners who will freeze are the ones who decided on energy policy?

Are you saying that Germany is not a democracy?

The party who was supposed to be against abolishing our nuclear plants, the conservative CDU and the liberal FDP, actually abolished them. So, kinda? No matter who we elected at that time, nobody would have kept them.

How many of those pensioners naively participated in Germany's anti-nuclear movement in the 70's, 80's, 90's?

You reap what you sow. No sympathy for Russian puppets.

It's kind of amazing that Germany can make the biggest effort of any western country to switch over to renewables and when they start suffering because America and Russia decided they want a proxy fight, Americans opine that Germany should be suffering because they decided to switch off a source of 4% of their power and didnt build enough port capacity for overpriced American LNG.

If this truly is the official American line then Id be pushing to have American military bases in Germany shut down.

Thanks, but I'm from Finland and like the rest of Europe we had enough of Germany's bullshit.

Renewables were never an alternative to gas. They can supplement it but not completely replace it. They are simply not stable enough. Maybe except for hydroelectricity. Meanwhile they did everything they could to prevent any development of new nuclear projects.

They did vote for them. I'm all for people suffering consequences for their political choices. Be it freezing to death or dying as combatants in their own countries.

>Do you think the pensioners who will freeze are the ones who decided on energy policy?

Yes. Yes, I do. They consistently voted for this future, and now they’ve got it.

I have sympathy for people in states like Russia, Saudi Arabia, North Korea when they suffer do to their governments. Changing governments there is tricky

The German population are well informed, well educated, and have a free media, they have a wide selection of political parties to choose from every few years, changing political direction is trivial, nobody will arrest you for talking about it, nobody will shoot you for voting the wrong way

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