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Denmark starting to ban Google products

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Please fix the head line.

The blog linked to is not a reputable news media.

From the article:

> In the statement by Datatilsynet DK, the sanctions only apply to municipalities.

> “Both yes and no, this statement is regarding chrome books and workspace in Danish public schools. But these principles apply to all cloud-provided services, but in Denmark, we make decisions in specific cases. They can be applied to other (similar) situations only if the legal fact can be considered the same.”

The head line is thus not accurate.

The sanction applies only to municipalities, but the law is a general one. Thus, others (e.g. businesses) could be sanctioned as well for using these and other Google products, on the same grounds. Thus, the headline is not really wrong (except that in a sense, they were already banned, since the law came into effect).

Nevertheless it is not about "a ban on all Google products".

The real problem is that US data protection is non-existant.

...bans Google Workspace use by municipalities until data transfer aspects etc have been properly documented.

The rest of the article does not support the clickbait headline.

I’d like to understand better how this will change the game for public cloud providers in EU. All I know is that GCP, Azure and AWS are all pushing to release data sovereignty features to meet incoming regulatory requirements.

Anyone with a crystal ball has any insight to share?

Is this something where Google is going to be able to just pay a fine and promise to make changes in order to keep all services going or is this something that could really end up hurting the company?

Including Search?

No. They banned the use of Google Workspace by municipalities in specific circumstances.

This is marketing for a Google Analytics alternative.

A moneygrab by governments. They are jealous that the US politicians get all the lobby $$

Lobbying Danish politicians won't change the GDPR. The end goal here is either to get US companies to respect EU citizens' privacy, or for EU companies to step in and provide an alternative.

Are there actually any people delusional enough to believe that this is done because their respective governments have their best interest at heart?

Yes, and they are not delusional.

People in other (generally higher trust, higher social capital) countries (such as Denmark) more often have a more positive attitude towards the role of government.

This is largely due to having followed a different trajectory of sociocultural evolution and having collectively undergone a different set of experiences. It's fragile without active maintenance (transparency, accountability, etc). Trust is easier to lose than to gain.

I guess you know a lot about this ...

... and only very little about actual reality.

Do enlighten us

Not all governments are as cynical and unresponsive as the american government is.

I'm not talking about the US, but they count as well of course.

Anyhow, sure!

I don't know why you specifically mention cynical, btw. That's definitely not what I thought. Malicious came to mind, but hey, we can't all think the same things, right?

So ... name five governments actually caring and looking out for their people.

With evidence that I can't rip apart, please.

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