The Curse of the Hasselblad XPan
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The sprocket reading mechanism uses IR if I remember correctly, so you can't use IR film in the XPan without getting leaks from this mechanism.
Also, labs used to automatically mess up cutting negative into strips for this due to the unusual framing, so you are best to home develop or use a pro lab that understand this sort of thing.
If you like the look, but can't or don't want to afford an XPan, the other option that I can think of is to get a Mamiya 7 with their 35mm adapter plate, giving the same aspect ratio. I've not tried it, because instead, I just shoot 120 film in a Mamiya 7 and crop if this is the aspect ratio I want. I also get shift for free doing this...
The other option i've tried, which is mind blowingly awesome is a Fuji 617, which is the XPan aspect ratio on 120 film. The problem is that you need an 8*10 enlarger to print these, and obviously the cost per shot is higher, but the quality is beyond what you can imagine.
I don't need one by any means; I just WANT one. Amazing camera that did it's own thing.
It's surprising there isn't a digital equivalent yet other than the incredibly expensive (and discontinued) Seitz Digital 6x17.
I suppose you could rig something like a trio of Ricoh GRIII or GRIIIx mounted on a rail with three overlapping fields of view, with a single electronic control so they are triggered at the same time, and then stitched later.
You see, the thing about the sprocket rocket is it comes with an insert to mask the sprocket holes...well and the other thing is you won't worry about dropping it because it is both cheap and rugged enough to survive three feet onto concrete and lacking electronics falling into the stream adding foreground interest to your volcanic Iceland panorama.
Plus it weighs nothing.
I ain't saying it is as good an Xpan, but if sharpness is the most interesting part of your pictures, it will be the cure.
And with all the money you'll save you can book a nice trip to Iceland.
All that said, getting lomo cameras to try out a format is a very good idea and one I heartily recommend.
And I also picked one up years ago when they were relatively cheap!
How it did this is 35 mm film had the iso and length encoded on the canister as “dx” coding. There were a bunch of sensors in the camera that measured if one of the squares conducted or didn’t. It’s kinda a neat solution and worked well.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DX_encoding
And a typical reader. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Canon_eo...
Slightly off topic, but as much as I love panorama shots I personally prefer shooting square, even for landscape. I have my Canon set to mask square for that view, though I do save the whole RAW.
A current sony mirrorless camera will blow the XPan out of the water in every possible sense unless you're shooting VERY high quality, VERY low ISO film, and the exposure time required for working with such a low ISO film means you probably lose whatever resolution advantage you might have gained.
Keep in mind this page was written over ten years ago: https://clarkvision.com/imagedetail/film.vs.digital.summary1...
Note that a Canon 40D, an APS-C camera that came out in 2007, had the image quality of medium format film, with greater dynamic range.
On the full-frame front, a Canon 1Ds hit theoretical maximum signal to noise ratio at 100 ISO, and at ISO 800 still had better S/N ratio than ISO 50 film: https://clarkvision.com/imagedetail/digital.signal.to.noise/...
Film is dead. It has worse resolution, dynamic range, sensitivity, and perhaps most importantly: workflow.
Film is so dead, in fact, that in cinematography, people shoot in digital and then apply postprocessing to make it look like film. Just as one can make a pristine recording sound like vinyl, one can make a digital camera look like film, because in both cases, digital is vastly technically superior.
I'm betting quite a few "I shoot 35mm film" snobs walked out of the theater after seeing Knives Out thinking to themselves "film's not dead, it's still better."
They wouldn't be alone; Steve Yedlin screened shots done on film and then digital, post-processed to look like film, and industry pros couldn't tell the difference: https://www.polygon.com/2020/2/6/21125680/film-vs-digital-de...
Anecdotally the film lab in my city has been very busy with mostly younger people. Every time I go to drop off film I am waiting in line. People still shoot film and still buy polaroids even, despite this age of everyone having a phone that looks like a spider with the amount of lenses on the back.
Some people like the process of large format film photography, even though it requires hauling 60 pounds of gear around with you. And hey, whatever works for your artistic process.
For professional use however the parent is right. Resolution, dynamic range, and the quality improvements of an all-digital workflow mean that from a technical standpoint you'd have to be nuts to choose film. And so the only reason left to choose film is because from an artistic standpoint the process better matches the artist's needs.
People are still shooting film, but it has gone from mainstream (remember film photo albums and polaroids?) to a niche product in a small and shrinking market. I feel like every so often I hear about another renowned photographic film being discontinued, or people complaining about another processing house closing its doors. At some point it will level out the way vinyl has, but for now I expect a very slow drumbeat of bad news for film lovers.
We're seeing the start of that process with DSLRs in the digital realm. None of the CaSoKon companies are making heavy investments in DSLRs, and the number sold has dipped below mirrorless cameras. It's already well along in the compact market segment, which has been absolutely wrecked by cell phones.
I would like to have a dedicated camera, that is more rugged than my old mirrorless. I don't want to pay for a weather sealed mirrorless. I don't want to buy an iPhone.
Why cant they make a GoPro-style camera that works like a very high end phone camera, with a zoom and a wide lens, and depth sensing?
Something you can keep in your pocket, use in pouring rain, but that's a bit better for filming other people doing stuff.
https://www.adorama.com/alc/faq-what-is-a-medium-format-came...
I also shoot with an old Rollei SL66. There are things that camera can do that no mirrorless can do. Reversible lenses? Scheimpflug adjustment? If you understand the tools technically and visually, then your mind’s eye is just more capable. Either I’m sat at a computer or stood in a darkroom - except other people do the darkroom bit for me, I have to do the computer bit myself.
Photography’s boundaries are no more about resolution, noise, dynamic range or workflow, any more than rock music is.
Sight isn’t in the eyes, hearing isn’t in the ears, defining senses by the sensors gathering the data is simplistic.
I also have a mirrorless that I use, but my film cameras are much more fun.
In fact, decommissioning of cinema film has been a boon for the quirky hobby photography market.
The superior process is the process that works for the person doing it. A photograph is ‘technically superior’ than a painted portrait but it is not a replacement.
> “Note that a Canon 40D, an APS-C camera that came out in 2007, had the image quality of medium format film, with greater dynamic range.”
Yeah, no it absolutely did not. It was 10 noisy megapixels and I have had one since it came out. The 5Dmk2 was close enough to be equivalent if you didn’t like grain. Also, a great deal of 40Ds just broke for no reason while sitting quietly in the shelf, quite literally dead. I have unmaintained cameras from the 60s that work fine.
Long before digital was a high fidelity choice, plenty of people intentionally chose ‘inferior’ video formats because they wanted the look it gave. People sometimes cut and paste with scissors and magazine pages, even if Photoshop is ‘superior.’
Seeing how it has such a cult following and how much the prices have shot up on eBay, it boggles the mind that they won't make another version. There are a number of DIY projects on various websites that use medium format lenses with integrated shutters, however they usually end up quite expensive as well.
Dragged it literally around the world, but stopped using it because it was starting to show the wear, and I was scared of ruining it.
I've shot a lot of digital and film since then, but nothing has ever come close to capturing the sheer beauty that drops out of this camera.
Shooting on slide film and then diving in with a loupe abd a lightbox is like reliving the moment.
If anyone is interested, this is my first roll of film from the camera (on the legendary Fuji Velvia 50 no less)
P.S. I own two XPans and would be willing to sell one. Hit me up if you are in Germany/EU and are interested.
I prefer the smaller TLR's like the Yashica these days.
Yeah, that's steep. I maybe paid $500 for one of my nicer TLR cameras....