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The Apple USB-C dongle is actually pretty well regarded as an inexpensive step up from onboard audio for “normal” headphones, and some folks will use it as a starter DAC to pair with an amp for less “normal” headphones …

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That's interesting. It looks really tiny on their site, so I guess the analog signal must be generated in the computer? So it seem more like a "PC manufacturers typically put more effort into their USB implementation than their 3.5mm implementation" sort of thing, I guess?

It's even more interesting, there really is a tiny DAC embedded in the Lightning connector:

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Lightning+to+Headphone...

Neat! I had no idea. Wonder if their USB-C version is better than the one that came with my non-Apple laptop...

sadly, it doesn't support mic if on windows - at least last time I've tried

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