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I don't understand how this is not on CNN/BBC news. This isn't the top news at the moment but significant .. I don't know if people in other countries know how this feels. People are saying this is pre-1990 .. but it is not really. People don't have landlines any more .. all our media is streamed via Internet. Stores can't take payments or orders. People can't call Ubers/taxis Millions of people don't have cellular. 911 issues have been reported. It has been over 12 hours and issue is not fixed.

This video shows a senior person at Rogers giving an update on the situation. It feels like I am in the twilight zone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYfRZZaPrC0

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Here are some major non-Canadian outlets with coverage:

BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62102223

NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/08/world/americas/rogers-int...

Reuters (doesn't really count, because HQ is in Toronto): https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/rogers-commun...

NPR: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110500480/rogers-canada-majo...

Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-08/banks-pay...

Reuters, the news organization, is headquartered in London. Thomson Reuters, the media conglomerate that owns it, is headquartered in Toronto.

Yes but.. we have municipal wifi, public libraries, etc, most of which are fortunately not running on Rogers (although admittedly they probably don't have much redundancy in place, here in Montreal, buses use Telus and city wifi is often Bell).

And Rogers broadband is mostly just Ontario?

re:landline, I'd say go a step further, and don't use cell services at all. All my phone calls use Signal or VoIP, sms is routed through VoIP.ms. My cell is data only and costs 15$/month for 3GB (fido/rogers).

I know, I know, some conditions may apply, but I really hate telcos and enjoy finding workarounds. Hopefully this will encourage a discussion about monopolies/redundancy.

> voip.ms

> redundancy

You do have a point in general. I wouldn’t put VoIP.ms and redundancy in the same sentence though. Unless they’ve drastically changed their infra, they had a massive 15 days (yes) outage not that long ago because of no redundancy and a poorly architected infra.

wasn't that primarily because of ransom-DDoS? I mean sure, not a good amount of DDoS protection but still

Your cell is Data only? I have never seen that as an option. How do you take calls on 3GB/mo? What VoIP service do you use for receiving calls?

If you look at the front page of the BBC News website right now, it is a fairly high ranking item directly below the Japanese assassination.

Right? I saw that and I was like... who gave this guy the right to talk to the media? If I were corporate communications at Rogers I'd be freaking that this person made it onto camera with this crap

(Luckily my phone is Freedom and my Internet is an independent small Hamilton local ISP.)

Aren’t a lot of smaller ISPs going out of business right now because of the CRTC’s decision to allow the big 3 to charge more for wholesale rates? I recall TelSavvy being going outspoken about this.

I'm not sure of their business state, but yeah, it's not good.

For me, I'm rural and I use a 900mhz point to point wireless connection that caps out around 15-20mbps on a good day. The upside is it's provided by a local old school indie ISP ("NetAccess"). It's $130 CAD a month, which is... expensive... but unlimited which is far cry from the theft that Rogers was performing on me prior with the 3g (then LTE) connection I had that at first capped me at 25G per month @ $100 a month and eventually went up to a "generous" 100G and then charged insane overage fees. My teen daughter ran us up a $400 bill one month.

Bell and Rogers are now offering more competitive rural options (at the behest of the gov't) but I refuse to give them any more money.

The guy in the YouTube video is terrible. It's like he's trying to be a politician and not answer the question, but he's incredibly bad at it

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