Historical language records show surge of cognitive distortion in recent decades
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To be fair, looking at their table of N-grams, a lot of them seem pretty timeless. For example: everyone, everybody, should, ought, must, worst, best.
But many of the N-grams strike me as being rather modern formulations. For example: a loser, a toxic, OK but, OK yet.
If a team of CBT therapists constructed such a list in 1900 instead of 2020, would we see the prevalence of cognitive distortions decrease as our language changed?
I think they try to control for this by choosing a null set of random N-grams, but the random N-grams were chosen from their entire corpus --- in other words by definition it's representative of the entire time span.
Edit: As an example of this, the authors include in their sample of words indicative of cognitive distortions "everyone" and "everybody." But 200 years ago these formulations were much less popular than "all the world," which is not included in the author's sample. If you just include the modern words, it's no surprise that cognitive distortions are increasing. But if you made the list in 1800 and only included the older formulation, you would conclude that cognitive distortions are decreasing.
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=everybody%2Cal...
Remind me of how most heat maps are just population density maps.
I agree that this might just be measuring increasing informality in published works.
informal and by less educated people. obviously there will be big exceptions, but I would imagine the % of computer-indexed text (i.e. books and newspapers) from between 1895 and 1995 that wasn't written by someone with a degree is not very high. similar to the way you can get a distorted view of the Romans (or nearly any literate historical society) because nearly (if not) all of their literature was written by the educated upper classes
> Second, the choice of CDS n-grams could lead to a "recency bias” in our results, explaining their rise in prevalence in recent decades. We control for this effect with a null model that samples random n-grams more frequently from recent books, due to rapidly increasing publication volume since 1895, thereby inducing a bias toward more recent language. We observe increases of CDS n-gram prevalence well above levels predicted by this null model
I don't get why this would work? I get the null model predicting a bias X, and I guess they have a greater bias X + Y, but I don't see how that handles their choice of cognitive distortion signifiers being biased? I mean isn't it likely their choice of signifiers matches to Y?
This seems like an interesting approach to controlling for the bias, but I'd expect the random sampling would bias lower than a specific sample as a random sampling of n-grams would pick up a lot of english grammar which hasn't changed in many years.
"But they don’t really have any measure of entire societies or depression. The above note by Schmidt discusses why the Google books collection cannot be characterized as a measure of entire societies. There are also problems with the depression measurement. Here’s what it says in the PNAS article:
For example, the 3-gram “I am a” captures a labeling and mislabeling distortion, regardless of its context or the precise labeling involved (“lady,” “honorable person,” “loser,” etc.). These same n-grams were in earlier research shown to be significantly more prevalent in the language of individuals with depression vs. a random sample (17).
Note 17 points to this preprint, which states:
Here, we show that individuals with a self-reported diagnosis of depression on social media express higher levels of distorted thinking than a random sample.
How do they define “distorted thinking”?
[W]e define a clinical lexicon of 241 n-grams that a panel of clinical psychologists deemed to form a schema involved in the expression of a particular type of distorted thinking according to CBT theory and practice. For example, “I will never” would be implicated in the expression of a cognitive distortions such as Catastrophizing or Fortune-telling, whereas “I am a _” would be used to express a Labeling and Mislabeling distortion.
This is like a parody of clinical psychology, reminiscent of those sitcom moments when the busy suburban dad is persuaded to go to a shrink, and everything he says on the couch is interpreted as some sort of neurosis. Only this case, instead of everything being a coded statement about his mother, everything’s a coded statement about a cognitive distortion. “I am a statistician.” “There you go with those Labeling and Mislabeling distortions again!”"
I THINK I’m reading more and more abstracts that show similarities between our current societal climate and that of the late 20s/early 30s of the last century. It will be academically interesting to see what the continuation of the current inflation and energy crisis which disproportionally hits the lower two thirds of the western populace causes in the next 2 years. The road to a substantial outburst - be it revolutions as a form of inward-directed change or god beware war - is paved at least.
As you pointed out - we find ourselves in a similar political climate but not because of the people who elected these governments but because of the globalists who still run them behind the scenes, just like they were doing prior, during and after WWII.
Can you please point me in the direction of some foundational books?
>The availability of large-scale historical records of published languages going back centuries may provide a unique opportunity for the quantitative investigation of important cultural and linguistic dynamics (“culturomics”) (21), while acknowledging limitations with respect to verifying hypotheses and testing the causal mechanisms that underlie any observations from these data.
I enjoyed that overall the article does not try to sell the idea that there is/was an actual change in the society, but rather showing how this analysis may be an indicator of that and inciting future work on the topic.
The English indicator drops from 1914 to 1960. WW1? Great depression? WW2? Nah, that doesn't depress us. Cold war, nuclear threat? Life's great! 1980, the advent of word processors, more personal, psychological literature, and a linguistic style closer to the present? Now we're depressed!
It's beyond me how you can publish findings which are based on correlations with correlations, and validations which took place 100 year later, when other explanations aren't even mentioned.
In the WWs you had a society perhaps more structured and united for a common national and patriotic cause.
In 1968 (since it's mentioned) and perhaps in recent years you have a society that arguably is less structured and people having issues with society itself and the state of the country.
It also seems to me that it was during the 70s that the US started to feel that things and the country were going down.
I suppose there is a parallel in the UK, for instance. Things were hard during WWII but people came together and had a sense of purpose and of fighting for their homes.
But then factories close, you lose your job, inflation picks up, society changes... now you may perhaps really feel depressed.
Also, GI Bills allowed intelligent individuals to get an education without worrying about debt as well as discounted mortgages and business loans.
That need dissipated after the 60s and there was more emphasis on hedonism and competitive individual ambition. Then in the 80s competitive economic individualism started to dominate everything else.
The result was a classic race to the bottom - with a few extreme winners who are indulged and beatified, a productive but often hamstrung professional underclass, and a huge precariat of economic losers.
At the same time the media landscape started promoting division and tribalism for profit.
So now we have a dysfunctional culture which is unable to cope with challenges like Covid, gun violence, and climate catastrophe because it has been groomed to be more emotional than rational, and the tone has affected everyone from the top down.
To some extent, but the military was still segregated by race.
The arc of cultural history you describe seems spot on. But I don't think splitting between "emotional" and "rational" is useful or even the root of what you describe.
Emotion is a kind of reason too, only it yields affect. Much of what we reason out "emotionally" is the really important stuff - who we marry, whether to have kids, when to change jobs.
I'd rather say, if it's true, that the quality of emotive and positivist thought has been equally corroded. I think if you truly take on board the thrust of the Trilateral Commission's action on the "Crisis of Democracy", the attack on emotional literacy has been even more vicious, and vital to the their aims, than the so-called "dumbing down of education".
The UK's literary output is probably also included among the English books of that period. It should show up, shouldn't it?
> But then factories close, you lose your job, inflation picks up, society changes... now you may perhaps really feel depressed.
Then it should go down in the 90s, right?
More generally you seem to dismiss the work largely because it does not match your preconceived notions of what should have been major effects. Maybe the question is to ask why they might not have. Or at least bring up evidence that they had a great impact on the language used.
I did a quick "find in page" and "war" is mentioned 22 times.
What I'm trying to say is: he never grew up with an accepting society or internet forums to easily find like minded people in anonymity. Publishing on a widely accepted and discussed topic seems more obvious than publishing on topics that are considered taboo. After WW2, germans discussed and published about the guilt of their parents. There was little room for compassion for those who "started war", but there was no room at all for those who suffered from it.
I would have significantly less confidence. How would you learn such a set? You then would need a set of texts that are clearly labeled from people with cognitive dissonance and without. I don't think such a set exists. Also note that the n grams have been tested previously for individuals (ref 17 in the paper)
Your post points to another interesting line of research (and maybe that is what you meant), can we find correlations between the language used in previous periods of unrest, e.g. in Germany the period of WW2 and other periods.
> It’s also worth considering that technical language (computing, for example) made great leaps around this same time period and bled into common parlance.
The authors specifically mention this, but it should bias the results in the other direction, i.e. technical work has less prevalence of the ngrams according to the authors (I'm unsure if they tested this).
>. Overall it feels like a great area to study, and as good science does, presents more questions than it does answers. There is much more to explore here though before we can conclude the entire world is depressed.
Note that the authors are very cautious about making any such claims and in fact acknowledge the question if applying these markers to societies is valid
> I am not an expert in linguistics, but I do feel as though there is a modern element missing from this research.
I'm not sure I understand. To me it seems like quite solid research (although I admit I don't know much about CDS markers...) without using some hype methods like ML just for the sake of it.
Or even taking a random sample of the ngrams to manually verify their usage hasn't changed over time, plus a random sample of texts to check that depressive sentiments weren't previously expressed in different language.
It's a great start, though.
I didn't find much new here at the conceptual level. This is what "Zeitgeist" means, and many epochs have been characterised as joyous or depressive.
However the framing of the study is important for me, because I broadly agree with the hypothesis that we are in a depressive epoch. In fact we are in an interregnum, which themselves go through phases in the gap between "a world that is dead and one still waiting to be born".
Why might the psyche of the Anglosphere be battered more than other groups or nations? Sure, we've had industrial revolution, slavery, two world wars, decades of proxy wars, environmental and financial disasters... but is our lot any worse than the long suffering people of Russia, China or Africa who carry traumatic histories?
I would argue that what ails "the West" is a loss of sense of positive future. That is actually a symptom of clinical depression too. The Fukuyaman conceit of the "end of history" is actually a dark and troubling stuckness. For me the prevalence of words like "inevitable", "ubiquitous" and "inescapable", especially around technology, are markers of a profound loss of creative vision and optimism.
Agree. In addition to creative vision and optimism, I would add a sense of agency has almost completely vanished from the Anglosphere starting with Gen X. The average person (and now a disturbing portion of those with power) believes that there is no way they can influence the trajectory of their life.
This is not good. That's where desperate, angry people come from.
Indeed. It's also the antithesis of what I understand to be the "American Dream", perhaps synonymous with "freedom" in our time. The kind of thing people will fight wars to hold on to. Really not good. So in my opinion worth courageously fighting for *now" rather than waiting for things to get that bad again.
I’m confused by this because Nietzsche died in 1900. Was it a prophecy? Or did you mean the 1800s?
Yes, silly me. He was talking about the times he saw around him (late 1800s) rather than prophesising. In Beyond Good and Evil he poses the open question "what sacred games shall we have to invent?". It was Freud and Jung who were possessed with visions of awful wars to fill the vacuum.
I am convinced for many reasons that social media is a major player in many mental health issues, but I wouldn't pin 100% of the blame there. For a start, the effect predates mainstream social media. But more importantly, the financial and political rewards for making people think negatively have never been higher. I think once the corporate/government/activist influencers caught onto the “make them feel bad, then offer them an alternative” trick, we were destined to see the hockey stick even if Twitter had never happened.
I can't say I agree.
I wonder how they ensure that the standards they set for accuracy and the "right" amount of negativity don't have any bias or inaccuracy. For example, someone's language patterns may match the N-grams because they are being consistent with the language patterns they were taught or exposed to in society, but their actual thinking could be much more nuanced.
Hostile advertisement messages such as this makes it really hard to stay sane. Politicians and companies seems so eager pushing people to the brink of insanity, and technology made them much more efficient at that than ever before.
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> We caution that we make no causal claims with respect to the relationship between lexical markers, cognitive distortions, and internalizing disorders, and the above comments therefore constitute speculations that we hope may inspire follow-up research.
Hmm, sure seems like exactly what they are trying to imply is that whole societies can be diagnosed with depression by lexical analysis. Meanwhile, I'm not even sure what it means to say that a society has depression. Feels like there is indeed follow-up research to do on this, though I'd have liked if it were done first.
This is a key question. I'll take a punt: It's not that a societal depression is the sum total of individuals feeling glum. To say "society is in depression" is more like economic depression, rather than "everyone in society is depressed" (though that might be a consequence).
In a depressed society things stop functioning. Like institutions, health, education, law...
In an economic depression it's a "chemical imbalance" of money not circulating.
In a societal depression it's a breakdown of ideas circulating (and that includes "ideologies" and "emotional ideas" like generosity, and diversity.
There are many enemies of intellectual life that corrode innovation, hope, vision and the life-blood a civilisation needs to flourish (as opposed to soulless technocratic subsistence). The Greeks called that force Thanatos. I do believe its ascendency is connected to technology and our inability to master it. Valery Legasov, like myself, was a stanch opponent of the folly of "technological determinism" and said that "people must take control of technology, not the other about about, if civilisation is to survive" [1].
[1] In reaction to the Chernobyl disaster.
Indeed. I'm (hopefully) clearly extending the interpretation well beyond the scope of that paper, which I took on face value to be unsatisfactory. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "establish" but the analog of "society of mind" (not just Minsky's take) as emergent of faculties at both neurological and human organisational levels is old and appears in many forms throughout philosophy and political theory. "Poetry" would be the highest complement, but alas I am too clumsy with words for that.
We're on the downward slope of a one time pulse in stupendously cheap and easy to reach fossil fuels. We're also running out of easy to reach groundwater resources.
If the grown ups among us don't take over and start steering things in the right direction, we're headed towards civilizational collapse.
Reality is depressing, and apparently this study confirms it showing up in our language.
do the same analysis for online fanfiction and see if that flows the same, publishers have a heavy hand in what they want to publish a lot of the time. taking a sample from the online community should be less biased
you might even be able to visualize what different publishers are biased for if they collected that information, but alas, this is more information I don't see in the articles figures
"It's not so bad, I could always kill myself" as a coping mechanism favored among depressives seems hard to predict.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2102061118?downloa...
Alternative non-JavaScript link without some figures, etc:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8325314/?report...
Beware, there's no assurance it was written with Emacs.
I disabled Javascript (with an extension and by setting it off from the browser's settings) and it's perfectly readable.
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Despite not being fully Emacs compliant the link you gave me worked in w3m just fine. Thanks! :)
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8325314/?report...
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Trust me the feeling is absolutely mutual. :)
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"This pattern does not seem to be driven by changes in word meaning, publishing and writing standards, or the Google Books sample."
Living when 'there is no such thing as society' makes you feel alone? Such surprise!
Isolating people, destroying communities, and pushing everyone to look out for themselves turns out to have negative effects? suprisepikachuface.png
(Having said all of that, there needs to be more than one study.)
(I couldn't reply in the old thread anymore ... so I hijack this comment)
Oh, thanks so much! Have a great day!
Therefore, we aren't necessarily in uncharted territory when it comes to lousy public mental health; it's possible that we were worse off in the 1930s and '40s and wouldn't know it by the data, because the most put-upon and miserable people weren't writing at all.
This doesn't explain the uptick since 1980. Moreover, since then, publishing (at least, traditional publishing) has reversed the changes of the midcentury and returned to being elite and exclusionary (albeit, in a different way) and yet we haven't seen this sort of censorship effect (and, to be honest, I'm glad we haven't, simply because I'm no fan of censorship). This establishes with high confidence that public mental health has worsened at least in the past 40 years (which, let's be honest, we didn't need a study to prove) and that--perhaps unusually, by historical standards--the middle and upper-middle classes are as miserable as everyone else, a fact that to me makes a strong argument for the Marxist framework in which only two social classes--the owning bourgeoisie, and the working proletariat--actually matter (since Marx did not deny a middle class's existence; he merely chose not to focus on it, believing--correctly, present conditions suggest--it to be an innately unstable status).
Misery isn't new. Oppression isn't new. War and poverty certainly aren't new. What is happening on an unprecedented scale is the re-proletarianization of people (the West's former middle class, no longer needed in such number due to the end of the Cold War) who thought themselves to be part of the bourgeoisie--who believed their educational credentials and professional networks (paper armor, it turns out) were "as good as" actually having capital. Wrong, it turns out. Such people can be making $200k/year one day and forced to do Scrum the next; and we're all one medical emergency away from ruin. The collapse of a middle class isn't nearly as bad a calamity as what nature and history have thrown at the poor, but it is the kind of disaster one hears about.
They're detested by both sides. The regular poor proletarians see them as kapos (and, quite often, it's the case) who have sold them down the river in order to get themselves temporarily pampered. The upper class, of course, has no respect for them. They've rejected their own tribe (the proletariat, the 99.9%) in the hopes of ascending into a new tribe that will almost certainly never actually accept them.