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This laptop is a refresh based on the Tong Fang PF5NU1G chassis. Tuxedo just announced their version, the Pulse 15 Gen2 that has a WQHD 2560x1440 165Hz 350 nit display: https://www.reddit.com/r/tuxedocomputers/comments/vrb1me/tux...

There's no limitation for Ryzen itself, it's largely up to the ODM/OEM to decide. For example, Lenovo and Asus have multiple QHD/4K options for Ryzen 5000 and 6000 series (iGPU-only) laptops (just do a search for Yogas, Thinkpads, Zenbook, Vivobook, etc).

Note, certain designs might have display limitations. A couple years ago, for the 1st gen PF5NU1G, Schenker tried to get a 4K OLED panel to run, but failed due to PCON compatibility and then sourcing/logistics issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/XMG_gg/comments/izg598/no_4koled_pa...

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I've actually found it quite hard to find Ryzen 6000 laptops with just an iGPU. RDNA2 would be perfect for me, you lose the weight and cooling issues that come with a dGPU but still have enough graphical performance to play some games.

Not to say they are common, but they are out there.

https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-1...

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/th...

And yet there is no "buy now" button and when I go to find the laptop I click on laptops -> for work -> all series -> filter processors -> "more" -> ryzen 7 ... not a single ryzen 6xxx shows up... Seems they are not acutually for sale yet. Same story for lenovo, the laptops with 5xxx cpu's can ship tomorrow, but the 6xxx cpus ship in "3+ months"... so ya, they are not actually available yet.

P16s looks perfect. I didn't want to say in my original post as it was a bit me-specific, but I'm also looking only for 16"+ laptops, and want to avoid the gamer aesthetic a lot of them seem to have, so the P16s looks perfect. Port selection and positioning is a bit odd, but hopefully ultradocks still exist for these newer thinkpads. I have one for my X220 and it works perfectly as a stand+dock

Look at the Thinkpad T14 / T14s Gen 3. Doesn't have a high-res display though...

The T14s has a 2880x1800, OLED, 500nit, wide color gamut, 90hz, screen option. It's probably the best screen you can get on a laptop right now:

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T...

The T14 has a 4K IPS option:

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T...

With that and USB4 the AMD Lenovos seem to be finally uncorked. At this point the Intel-only X1 is suffering as a supposedly top of the line laptop. The chassis is slightly better and that's about its only advantage.

Where did you even get those links? When I go to lenovos's website I and filter byt processor I cannot actually find any laptops with these specs to order... So maybe these are only available for businesses to order? Or they are not available yet???

I worry that 14" would be a bit small for me, this would (probably) be for a desktop replacement so screen real estate really matters (right now I'm using an x220 with a tiny 12.5" screen and its the main reason Im looking to change).

I prefer iGPU solutions as well (primarily for better battery life, less potential driver issues, and hopefully weight savings) but one thing you tend to lose is cooling headroom. Most of the iGPU only designs end up with single-fan single-heatpipe cooling for U chips designed for 25-35W of heat dissipation. As a point of comparison, the Asus G14, which has a 6800H allows you to get up to 75-80W sustained CPU on its Turbo setting! https://www.ultrabookreview.com/53935-asus-zephyrus-g14-ga40...

The G14 is 1.65kg, which isn't the lightest, but is actually the exact same weight as Asus's upcoming iGPU-only 6800H/6900HX Vivobook S 14X: https://www.asus.com/Laptops/For-Home/Vivobook/Vivobook-S-14...

I've scanned through the Lenovo site as an example and I can't find anything AMD with a display larger than 1920x1080 (at least on the UK site)...

In Germany Lenovo sells a Legion S7 15 with a 4k display and Ryzen 7 5800H (article number 82K800GUGE). There are also variants of the Yoga Slim 7 Pro 16, the IdeaPad 5 and the ThinkBook 16p G2, each with a 2560x1600 display and a Ryzen CPU.

A bit OT, but I've always found that beyond 2560x1440, I can't really tell the difference on a laptop-size screen. If anything, the only 4K laptop I've owned was a bit more troublesome than the 1440p ones because so many applications had scaling issues that I had to deal with.

Fully agreed and on the other hand once you get used to 2560x1440 (QHD), lower resolution laptop is a real bummer regardless of the screen size. This also applies to desktop monitor and as you grow older the phone screen as well. Strangely, the entry level Samsung Galaxy S20 phone screen is regressing from QHD+ to 1080p in the S22 after two years, and the recently released flagship ROG 6 pro phone from Asus also stucked at 1080p.

> Fully agreed and on the other hand once you get used to 2560x1440 (QHD), lower resolution laptop is a real bummer regardless of the screen size

Yep! 1080p is unfortunately now unbearable to me for monitors and laptops, although thankfully I have not reached the point yet where I'm this picky about phone screens

QHD with Ryzen https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-5...

There were a few other QHD Ryzen gaming laptops. Couldn't find any business/workstation ones on the UK site though.

Similarly, the US has a 4K Ryzen gaming laptop. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion...

Solid laptops. Enough power for a portable homelab. Went from a Legion 5 to a Legion 7 because I ended up liking it enough to make it my main machine. Much fewer random firmware bugs than AMD ThinkPads. They even do KVM GPU passthrough reasonably well.

How's the keyboard on the Pulse 2 from someone who might be very partial to loud, clickety, far travel, mechanical keyboards?

How does Linux do with the high refresh rate display? Does it destroy battery life like I imagine?

I don't know how high refresh rate displays affect battery life, but in the worst case I imagine you could turn down the refresh rate when you aren't interested in using it (certainly refresh rate is tunable in X11).

If you want a mechanical keyboard, you should probably carry your own, as even the "mechanical" keyboards on laptops like the Eluktronics Mech 15 are IMO pretty lackluster. The NuPhy Air 75 fits exactly over the keyboard deck, btw, so that'd be my recommendation (replaced an Anne Pro I was using, which felt better, but was much bulkier. A Keychron low-profile might work as well, but I can't confirm whether it'll sit on the deck properly or not w/o having to disable the built-in keyboard.

In terms of the built-in keyboard feel, it's adequate. I would say that it reminds me of the keyboards on early-2000s Apple TiBooks. For the previous gen (and in my copy as well) there were reports of slight unevenness of the keyboard deck, although it was more of a curiousity than an actual issue in day-to-day use.

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