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We Did It, We Lost Access to Tesla Full Self Driving Beta

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>On the good side, I can now look at the control screen on my right or down at my phone for more than ~15 seconds without being nagged.

Wow, I'm glad I live multiple states away from this guy.

Hmm.. what if you wear sunglasses and checkout the screen's figure? Would it still notice?

> My wife had three small children distracting her and she was wearing a splint on her broken wrist.

Maybe not the best time to be using FSD? Sounds extremely lazy and negligent, take better care of your partner when they're injured, at least let them rest and heal before saddling with child transport duties.

I hate Mullosk and Tesla, but have to side with them in this case. Author sounds like a stereotypical entitled foolish fancy car owner, detached from reality. For safety reasons, they should have to pass additional training before access is reinstated.

If you’re distracted and handicapped it might not be the best time to be driving at all. If you’re going to be irresponsible anyway, being irresponsible with FSD on is probably safer than with it off.

Might this promote a false sense of safety for the driver?

On the other hand, they paid for full self driving. What's the point of full self driving if it's revoked as soon as you rely on it?

Yea shouldn't be sold at all. How there isn't a broad movement to get the money back is beyond me.

Too many people nowadays leap to part with huge sums of money with little or no assurances and refuse to make waves when (not if) they get taken.

They don’t (or didn’t) have Full Self Driving though. They were participating in a beta test program which had specific responsibilities that they agreed to.

> They were participating in a beta test program

For the low, low price of $6,000! What a deal!

He didn't "buy" the software for 6000$. He gain a license to use it under Teslas conditions. He broke them. Welcome to the future of driving.

This guy sounds like he shouldn't be on the road to be honest. He's now happy about the fact that he's able to look away from the road for > 15 seconds?

Also it sounds like they had 5 instances of: not touching the steering wheel for over a minute, speeding whilst using an experimental self-driving system, looking away from the road for an extended period whilst using an experimental self-driving system.

It sounds like he thinks it's unfair that his wife got a strike for driving with one arm, whilst distracted by children.

I can't stand Tesla as a company, but it sounds entirely fair that they had their access taken away.

Sounds like they should reenable for him, it might be safer for the other road users to have the AI in control instead of him.

What's important to point out here is that drivers are rated. I could see this stepping out from autonomous vehicles to to the traditional vehicles. If you're writing gets too low, you won't be able to drive. Granted, this is a beta system which is plenty of flaws requiring human attention, but that's beside the point.

The speed forced disengagement bit is wrong. Autopilot will disable if you exceed its speed limit, but it does not count against the FSD beta 5 strikes.

I love how it's pay money for the privilege to temporarily license a beta, unfinished feature, but only if you jump through a million hoops. Some gotcha capitalism right there.

Perhaps King Musk could go to a feature-enabled forever model of IR cameras, LIDAR, MMW RADAR, and similar AND disengage FSD when it's too complicated for AI control... nawh, that would be too sensible and unprofitable.

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