Also, from my own observations, in Europe "hipster" doesn't have a negative connotation, meaning simply "cool person"
Part of the reason I left software is because everybody expects this obnoxious puppy-dog personality out of developers. The grumpy old bastards just want to be left alone to stew
Not really "cool person", more like "pretentious person".
I always understood it as "someone who is putting extra effort into finding obscure/novel things just to appear cool".
A pretentious person is a person who thinks they're "better" than others (whatever that means) for irrelevant reasons, like their taste.
A poser is a person who in addition doesn't have the good tastes to be better than others, and so he fakes their tastes. He's putting in effort in order to attain pretentiousness.
I would define hipster as synonym of poser. It's worse than pretentious.
Uh, what? Maybe in some parts, in Germany hipster is absolutely negative.
Is this a new thing? I remember explicitly telling my Berliner friend that hipster had a negative connotation where I came from. Maybe all those things I heard about Berlin not being Germany are true :P
Where I lived in Holland the term was similarly neutral. (Also I saw an ad in Dutch "hipster" where it meant panties or women's underwear?)
This would be about 10 years ago though
> Berliner
The joke really writes itself :D
But I’ll also allow that this might be one of the occasions where I’m too out of touch with German culture, it’s not as if I talk about hipsters with my German friends ;)
> Also I saw an ad in Dutch "hipster" where it meant panties or women's underwear?
> Low-rise is a style of clothing designed to sit low on, or below, the hips. The style can also be called lowcut, hipster, or hip-hugger.
Yeah, it didn't really come up with German friends from other parts of the country. Though the Berliner epitomized "hipster" in the California definition of the word. I miss that guy...