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Aversion to sex work aside, how’s this different than some of what’s done in Silicon Valley? Uber will happily extract the remaining equity in your car as you teeter on the brink of homelessness at which point DoorDash will be happy to make you your own boss. Maybe I’m just jaded because it’s hard to find a place to rent wherever there’s a booming market for Airbnb rentals.

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Yeah, SF has become all about money since 2000 (well, since the gold rush 150 years ago) and is the kind of place that spawns the ubers and airbnbs, but SV is still quieter and mostly tech. It just doesn’t get the same press because new high speed interconnect isn’t a consumer item, nor is it as photogenic.

My aversion is against people paying for that. Prostitution is legal in my country but strip clubs and similar businesses are far less popular it seems. There is also a negative stigma against those visiting such places. Not sure if that is a bad thing to be honest. Of course Uber and DoorDash are exploitative too, probably even worse for workers. Most people probably don't do a serious calculation for car ownership and maintenance. Likewise I have an aversion against people using these services too and then complain about low wages. An Uber might be cheap but you might dearly pay for it later.

If you haven’t lived in either place, it’s difficult to understand. Capitalism abounds in both, but is expressed in very different ways in each place. The cultures are just wildly different. As a native Californian, I find Florida’s culture to be smarmy and tasteless, with people shamelessly flaunting designer labels and consuming conspicuously. Being seen is super important to a lot of Floridians. (It also goes a long way to explain why Donald Trump enjoys living there; he fits right in.)

Southern California (as influenced by Hollywood) has a bit of this problem too, but it’s far less acute by my observation.

I’m from neither FL or CA, but have lived (for 5 years+) in both S Florida, SV / SF, and a brief stint in LA. The cultures from all these places felt like two sides of the same coin. Compared to my native slice of fly over America, the flaunting and virtue signaling were pretty overwhelming

flaunting and virtue signaling exist here in flyover, sometimes it's a different set of virtues but they are definitely flaunted.

I’d agree, it matters not whether the surrogate for a person’s missing personality is a designer label and a lime green Lamborghini or a second home in Sonoma and ayahuasca trips to burning man.

The difference is the conspicuity. One is private and discreet behavior (as long as they don’t brag about it), the other flamboyant and gaudy.

In my experience it's the Californians I have known who were smarmy and tasteless, from both cities in California. Your comment is a great example of the snooty attitude those of us from flyover country have been tolerating our entire lives as it flows from our TV screens.

What you described is a sub culture of Miami. It doesn't describe anyone in Florida north of West Palm Beach, and completely disregards the Cuban-American population in Miami itself.

Or are Cuban Americans not representative of "real" Miami? Because if you forget about the Cubans, my wife is going to have to say something to you in rapid Spanish that you won't enjoy, even if you only understand her tone

To be fair, GP was quoting a comment specifically comparing Miami and SF, although the comment you reply to lost that distinction.

I agree it’s overly simplistic but that sub culture of Miami certainly exists and is very visible, just like SF isn’t entirely tech.

it's not different, gumpy just thinks it's different.

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