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TikTok confirms it is using Oracle infrastructure in the US

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Does it really matter where the data sleeps at night when someone can simply SSH in from Beijing and hit a reporting DB?

Or, are we actually expecting Oracle to follow through with making this a trustworthy process?

Who here would now install and use their product per this news?

> when someone can simply SSH in from Beijing and hit a reporting DB?

Does it really matter when China & Tiktok is practically connected to the same Internet?

As far as I am aware, simply being connected to the same internet does not automatically provide unfettered access to all participants' data.

Important to note that the audience of this article and Tiktok’s target market are disjoint. Relevant minds need to be swayed.

At least we can now be sure the data is now safely accessible to the US goons.

Funny seeing high level management talk of sysadmins as "masterminds" whom "have access to everything"

Yeah, exactly, that's what you hire sysadmins for and specially high seniors, for them to have access to everything

Anyhow, it has been interesting seeing buzzfeed and Newsweek with their deep connections get these scoops, but I wasn't quite a fan of them for the fact that they were being misleading with the timelines of it, such as saying that ""everything can be seen in China"" when that ought have been on a past tense given than Tiktok has been working with oracle for a while to sanitize their datasets, but I guess "reality" just isn't good enough to sell clicks and outrage

One thing that is not discussed here is that Oracle offers much cheaper bandwidth compared to all other big cloud providers. Bandwidth is one area of the cloud offerings where the prices hasn't changed much. Oracle was able to attract Zoom also for potion of their backed. Getting more competition here will enable smaller players to create apps which rely more on video.

Disclaimer: I haven't use Oracle cloud, just researched it.

I do not trust what the US is capable of doing with that data, good thing i'm not american

Bad thing you're not American. Regarding themselves, there are domestic rules, regulations and laws. For you, as a foreigner, no such protections apply.

It really doesn't matter where you're from, my country will spy on you and your country on me. Then they just exchange info. Loophole. Tada.

So i can't have an opinion on the matter?

What about Instagram data regarding foreigners?

Should they use local cloud providers and store their data in the country of the user?

What should we do about you? is it a lost cause? or you are willing to accept that we can question things and have different opinion?

That's the problem with people like you, you print infinite money, and make people believe what you hand them is not toilet paper, then when we catch you spying me wiping my ass with that toilet paper, you start to complain and tell me what i should do with it, what i am saying doesn't make sense right?

The poster you replied to was not defending the US's spying practices; they were saying that as a non-US resident you get spied on by the US more, not less.

No shit. That's how their staying afloat. Oracle is basically a Chinese backed American company now.

Good lord, what an absurdly low quality comment

It is almost funny how bad it is if it weren't by the fact that we are in ycombinator

From your comment you can tell you aren't really aware of what's going on. It is almost the opposite in its entirety & the condition that TikTok was able to keep operating in the US as a Chinese company.

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