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Anthony Mackie on why Hollywood movies are of poor quality and why there are no movie stars anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj8JK6c5x3M

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The no movie stars thing was interesting. I was thinking about Chris Pratt who seems like one of the most recently created "superstars"(as in he's a lot of big movies) and yet he doesn't feel like a brand the way Cruise or Schwarzenegger or Aniston do.

Not buying it. Holland & Zendaya are just as popular as Pitt & Aniston was in the 90s.

As an anecdote of one I know who Pitt & Aniston are but not Holland or Zendaya

Same, but I'm in my late 40s so maybe that's expected.

Yea, but compare apples to apples. Go back to the 90's and everyone from all age ranges knows who Pitt and Aniston are. I assume the only people who know who Holland and Zendaya are are much younger than us (I'd need to Google them as well--haven't a clue who they are).

I’m old and don’t follow celebrities either, but this couple starred in one of the highest grossing films of all time last year.

Prove it. Let's look at some data:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=%2Fm%2F0...

Even from 2004, when Brad Pitt was arguably less popular than in the 1990s, we can see that Tom Holland has never reached the same 'peaks' that Brad Pitt had reached. Tom Holland blew up in December 2021 (though never reaching two of Pitt's peaks), and is now down to a level of interest lower than Brad Pitt is today.

Similar for Zendaya vs. Jennifer Aniston: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=%2Fm%2F0...

If we average out the 2021 popularity for Zendaya/Holland, and average out the 2004 popularity for Pitt/Aniston, then Pitt/Aniston dominate.

The data is slightly tangential, and so it's not conclusive, but it basically suggests that you're mistaken.

Counterpoint: young people are spending more time searching within apps like TikTok/IG/Twitter, and not using Google at all

This is a great counterpoint! Sadly, I've been unable to find any data on whether young people use Google less. Do you know of any indication of this?

Funny timing on this, here's Google confirming it: https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/12/google-exec-suggests-insta...

Watched this. Very interesting

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