Berlin preps ‘huge thermos’ to help heat homes this winter
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I'm surprised that our government didnt see this coming, considering the Ukraine-Russia conflict has been going on for nearly a decade - maybe we need to revisit some other dependencies as well?
Either way, this giant thermos is a cool idea, and I wish we had the same in my city now!
Tangentially related rant;
Man, it sucks we (im german) dont ever listen to any qualified experts anymore, unless they tell us what we want to hear.
I love feelings and emotions as much as the next guy, and I appreciate a good story that can make me cry and feel things, but we didnt really have to talk ourselves into being so scared of nuclear to turn it off indefinitely.
It's one of those decisions that was made completely out of fear, and to appeal to the voters, I assume. It's fucked us royally, and it's absolutely miserable to see that other countries with "worse" governments do a better job of this. Still almost everyone I know will argue "do you want a Chernobyl next to our city???", and seemingly, this is the kind of irrational thing this government uses as core points for making decisions.
I'm out of here first chance I get, if someone wants to offer me a job literally anywhere where the government can read and listen, im taking it.
Maybe all countries are messed up, just in different ways
The expertise and knowledge of water reactivity, storage and pumping are built on centuries of engineering.
The structure doesn't appear to be that large for this claim. So I wonder if they will continue to scale it after this winter. I could easily see 8-10 of these sitting on an industrial outer edge of a city
> 3. How does the storage facility work?
>You can imagine the storage tank as a large thermos flask, but it never gets empty. The hot water with a temperature of 98 degrees Celsius is at the top, cooler water layers at the bottom, with the cold water still having a temperature of about 50 degrees. A pipeline of about 400 meters connects the storage tank to the pump house where four pumps ensure that hot water reaches the tank. It is pumped into the top of the storage tank and is also taken out here when needed. If hot water is added at the top, the same amount of cold water is taken out at the bottom. So only the quantity ratio between hot and cooler water in the storage facility changes but not the total amount of water. At maximum output of 200 Megawatt thermal, the storage facility can provide heat for about 13 hours.
[1] https://group.vattenfall.com/uk/newsroom/News/2021/vattenfal...
I think the electric heat part is to help provide load balancing so theyre probably aiming for cheap and simple as it'll be used intermittently.
It is possible to have heat pumps at the other end of district heat systems, to let individual units pull heat from the shared source and also feed it back im when in AC mode.