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“I understand my permission herein overrides my listing on any state of(sic) federal do not call list and any prior listing on the do not call lists of the companies listed above.”

That’s disturbing. There is no way that’s possibly legally binding? Surely there can’t be a loophole this ridiculous in the Do Not Call law?

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I’m pretty sure filling out a form with your phone number and a granted permission with that wording does override dnc lists, but you can reverse it again when they call.

You can reverse it for whatever subsidiary called you, but I doubt your opt-out will be shared with all of their affiliates.

Whoopsie you said yes once upon a time, looks like you've irrevocably consented to any and all futures interactions!

If there is no way to decline after viewing the terms, then it is not legal. It would be considered a contract of adhesion.

Problem is that you can decline after but if they've sold your data, now you have to chase down everyone in the chain afterwards.

Waiving rights is a normal part of American life.

The general rule of thumb is that consent to be called overrides the Do-Not-Call stuff. Although, that said, you also have to be able to later withdraw that consent, I believe (I know this is true as far as anti-spam laws go, but I'm not specifically familiar with the telephony rules).

If it's legal, it seems like every business would do this. Your bank, the local McDonalds when you install their app, Uber & Lyft, every e-commerce site would bury in the terms & conditions, etc.

You really think that they aren't?

Yes. I've never gotten a phone call from McDonald's.

Of course you've never gotten a phone call from McDonald's, but EVERYONE has gotten a scam phone call.

I have, but I assume they were just wardialing. I don't think I've ever gotten a scam call where they actually knew my name or DOB or anything else that could be associated with the info I put into the McDonald's app (presumably that's what they would be selling... just the existence of a phone # isn't particularly interesting I'd guess)

Places you do business with (like your bank) are already allowed to call you regardless of your Do Not Call registry status.

It is legal, and that is exactly what businesses do. The statement was just a notification. Any company you do business with and provide your info can contact you, because you overrode the DNC by giving out your contact information.

Being on the DNC making it so no business ever can call you is a monkey paw wish.

Your bank is absolutely permitted to call you regardless of you being on the DNC. You have an existing business relationship with them.

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