Ask HN: How fast is your Spring Boot startup time?

Assuming you've already bootRun or compiled once and are starting the app again, what's your startup time? I'm currently working on an app where it's taking ~30 seconds to get started and wondering what the lower bound could look like with the proper optimizations. I'm generally happy with Spring Boot + Kotlin but find it hard to cope with the turn around time for updates to take effect. With spring boot dev tools enabled, the hot reloading seems to take about 10 seconds. Might not be all that long objectively or compared to how long it used to take, but it certainly feels slow relative to backends in JS, Python, Ruby, etc.