America needs supply-side reform
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"who cares, america won't manufacture low end stuff like refrigerators, but we'll manufacture high end stuff like TVs."
"who cares, america won't manufacture low end stuff like TVs but we'll manufacture high end stuff like computer chips."
"who cares, america won't manufacture low end stuff like computer chips but we'll manufacture high end stuff like bored ape NFTs."
I also think it will help us as a society if we let people work rather mundane jobs that make essential products and receive good living wages. “I make a living making the bolts that keep your fancy EV together.” Service economy be damned.
That boat has long since sailed I’m afraid but maybe we can bring it back somehow. I remain hopeful.
Imperialism isn’t a necessity or even a proper answer. You need local expertise, education and decent living standards.
But these are industries where you don't job hop every couple of years - you do it for decades and your wage rises accordingly.
It's hard work, but there's always people who can do it and want to do it.
If we could figure out a way to equally exploit the Canadians we’d be set for generations.
Poland has been used for cheap labor ever since the fall of Soviet. Only difference is that Poland got a lot less cheap over the years, while Mexico seems to never stop being poor.
It's actually beneficial to the workers - 6 months at basically ~1500 Euros saved per month = 9000 Euros. 5-10 years of these "deployments" and you buy a nice house.
But yeah, there's plenty of labour to feed smarter countries' industrial machines. I say "smarter" because the governments of RO/BG are absolute shite at improving conditions for startups/small business - you know, the things that become big business and bring in money, keep workers, etc given the chance and time. DE/NL/SE/etc know how countries become "developed".
It was originally a kind of academic pretext for justifying exploitation of third world resources.
Then western economists drank their own koolaid.
They then tutted paternalistically at China in the 90s for engaging in export oriented industrialization and keeping their capital markets on a tight leash. They argued that China was shooting itself in the foot and should stick to things they were good at like making cheap tacky toys and clothes and open up their capital markets.
Those 90s New York Times op eds hailing comparative advantage and chastising China aged really badly.
and comparative advantage operates just fine without trade barriers. Since it's just a mathematical relationship, i.e. it can't be wrong, it also operates with trade barriers, just not as efficiently.
After all, the west has all the absolute advantages: rule of law, educated workforce, public infrastructure, financial capital, fertile soil, intellectual property.
No one should ever produce something in a developing economy. Just import all finished goods from the usual industrial nations until e.g. Greece is bankrupt from buying German made products. Suddenly the Germans introduce austerity policies and overall reduce the quality of life in Greece.
The theory of comparative advantage assumes comparative advantage never changes and cant be changed by trade policy. 90s neoclassical economists pushing this cult werent just proved thoroughly and conclusively wrong by the ascendance of China, their koolaid might have spurred on the end the American empire.
The thing we need to bring back is the full supply chain. E.g. it doesn't make sense to build things here if 90% of the components come from Shenzhen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZYPG1ADPg
There are endless similar videos of people making simple machined, cast, or forged parts by hand like this, in horribly unsafe conditions, at least by today's workplace standards.
I was watching a video on the YouTubes where they were doing a large casting in the UK and I can’t imagine it was much different to how it was done a hundred years ago when the original thing they were copying was made. Other than better ppe with all the space tech I’d guess but as a casual observer it looked “horribly unsafe”.
People then swear off third party code and start writing the basics themselves or at least stop updating their dependencies.
Inspiration to make improvements to the nuts and bolts requires daily, constant exposure to the nuts and bolts. There is a lifetime of knowledge required sometimes.
Facebook moving towards the "metaverse" is disturbing to me because they are basically betting on people giving up on the real world, it's a form of surrender. Don't bother trying to solve real problems, just plug into the matrix
"who cares, america won't manufacture low end stuff like computer chips but we'll manufacture high end stuff like Intellectual Property."
As this is the reality.
Not only do I see our competitive advantage in Intellectual Property declining, I also don't know what comes next after Intellectual Property.
Citation needed. Take me to this mystical place. I have lived in a couple of flyover states. Rent and housing aren't getting cheaper anywhere, compadre.
There's a good reason for this, the vast majority of people aren't shopping for homes in places without jobs.
Arrogance and hubris.
> Not only do I see our competitive advantage in Intellectual Property declining, I also don't know what comes next after Intellectual Property.
We maintain our interests as we always have: destabilizing other countries and war. However, I think pax Americana ends with climate change.
Perhaps, but it might also give opportunities to further it:
"No, Brazil, you can't cut down your forest in your country for farmland. We have to fight climate change! You need to stop right now or else."
If you read about Brazil cutting down parts of the Amazon in places like reddit you'll find that a lot of people in the developed world hold this kind of an opinion. They might even be willing to back some form of sanctions or punishment for Brazil for doing it. This gives a convenient excuse for developed nations to meddle with other countries again.
"Intellectual Property" based economics, like "Service Economy" that we all heard in the 90's has the same flaw, they are self canalizing and built on intangible "honor" based trade
Unlike Physical Manufacturing, of Physical Goods, or the development of Raw Resources.
Solid Foundational economies require the production of solid tangible assets, not "Intellectual Property"
Even now US electric cars are mostly a loss leader in the legacy market, without the constraint of being produced in the US. What's going on here?
If you're a monopoly or oligopoly, a situation where there's not quite enough supply lets you crank up prices and run your factories at their most profitable point. You don't have to worry about losing market share to a competitor. If you're a monopolist in a range of products, you can deal with someone trying to move into part of your space by lowering prices for the competed items only, until the new entrant cracks. Known examples are generic drug companies, cable TV companies, cellular phone companies, and bulk agricultural product wholesalers.
It seems to take at least four real competitors before price competition happens. That's from an EU study. Once you're down to three players, the magic happens, the margins go way up, and supply shortages become profitable.
That's because three is the maximum amount of CEOs that fit in a golf buggy (with equipment).
There the impacts are direct and obvious, but I worry that similar things happen in other industries as well. There are certainly a lot of people that think copper, steel, and aluminum tariffs are leading to workarounds that involve more imports of finished goods.
Is the US ultimately hurting or helping domestic manufacturing with these policies? I don't think the answers are clear.
Time and time again we prove that R&D has a massive ROI, yet it's always being trimmed since it doesn't pay off in a short-enough time frame to keep the accountants happy (<6 months).
It's fun to read, but it's not founded on reality (evidence), and people should not take it seriously, just like virtually all comments on social media sites.
Shocks to supply and to the economy (so, things like Covid or Russia invading a neighbor) can cause that risk to be realized as harm, or at least cause the risk to be more evident.
Then when bad things happen in that location, you lose that production. The result is that you can't get what you need at any price.
2. Economists in general don't account for any externalities or 2nd order effects when it comes to free trade. In theory comparative advantage makes sense, but it doesn't account for how outsourcing cheap manufacturing to China eventually allows them to build up an economic base that threatens the US militarily
Basically for the US economy to work requires the system to be completely perfect, anything like a war or pandemic that throws even a minor wrench in an extremely complicated system causes disaster.
If we put economists in charge they'd have outsourced all food production because cheaper labor in other countries would be more "efficient". Which would be fine until some sort of famine, then those countries would just keep the food and we'd be stuck with "high value" products while starving
Many do. They just don't get hired as lobbyists so their impact on the conversation is limited. The economics that gets done in economics departments is often quite different from the economics that percolates out into popular consciousness. But a lot of it involves math. . .
Better analogy would be the cloud. You could imagine a number of different points on the cloud vs. self host spectrum:
- Fully dependent on high level APIs of a third party.
- Dependent on commodity VMs and dedicated servers from third parties.
- Purchase equipment from third parties to host on leased premises with leased connectivity.
- Purchase equipment from third parties to host on own land with leased connectivity.
- Fabricate your own equipment to host on your own land and lay your own fiber to customers.
- Dig your own mines to obtain the raw material for such equipment. Fabricate your own machines to make it.
I am going to use this line from now on. Your whole comment is brilliant, BTW
This shows great ignorance of both farming and economics. For cereal crops, labor barely registers as an input.
Negative externalities can happen such that access to your trading partners is severely reduced or eliminated.
In terms of COVID and China, the biggest trading center and very large (largest?) shipping port in China largely came to a grinding halt as the entire city was locked down for covid. Massive amounts of cargo ships were just stuck outside the port with nothing to do. This gummed up the entire inner workings of the international trade system and international shipping system, and this negatively impacted many economies due to lack of goods and increased cost of good that were available due to limited supply.
In terms of Russian aggression, the main issue has been restricted access to Russian oil. Energy drives economies. If energy prices go up and/or supply goes down, it slows the economy.
The US very much still has a domestic manufacturing sector, it just happens to be the case that fewer people work in it.[1] In fact the US manufacturing output is the second largest in the world, on par with China.[2]
Insofar as the US does struggle, I don't see the connection to free trade. The US has one of the largest domestic economies, and free trade only comprises about 23% of the American GDP. That makes the US the third least free trade reliant country in the world. Compare that to Germany or South Korea, two strong manufacturing countries in the developed world, where trade is about 4 times(!) as important.
[1]https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IPMAN
[2]https://www.brookings.edu/research/global-manufacturing-scor...
[3]https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.TRD.GNFS.ZS?most_rec...
* free health care * free/cheap public transit (trains, bicycles, walking; energy efficient) * cheap real estate (not only housing, but cheap retail/office space) --> density + kill zoning
And let the IRS do tax returns for people. Kill the Intuit strangle hold on tax returns.
The sugar rush that comes from a bump in stock prices when you hire ex-MBB MBAs is corrosive to societal fabric and national security in the long run.
By Christopher Hill
Copyright © 1961, 1980 by Christopher Hill
In 1601 a member of Parliament asked, when a list of monopolies was read out, ‘Is not bread there?’ His irony exaggerated only slightly. It is difficult for us to picture to ourselves the life of a man living in a house built with monopoly bricks, with windows (if any) of monopoly glass; heated by monopoly coal (in Ireland monopoly timber), burning in a grate made of monopoly iron. His walls were lined with monopoly tapestries. He slept on monopoly feathers, did his hair with monopoly brushes and monopoly combs. He washed himself with monopoly soap, his clothes in monopoly starch. He dressed in monopoly lace, monopoly linen, monopoly leather, monopoly gold thread. His hat was of monopoly beaver, with a monopoly band. His clothes were held up by monopoly belts, monopoly buttons, monopoly pins. They were dyed with monopoly dyes. He ate monopoly butter, monopoly currants, monopoly red herrings, monopoly salmon, and monopoly lobsters. His food was seasoned with monopoly salt, monopoly pepper, monopoly vinegar. Out of monopoly glasses he drank monopoly wines and monopoly spirits; out of pewter mugs made from monopoly tin he drank monopoly beer made from monopoly hops, kept in monopoly barrels or monopoly bottles, sold in monopoly-licensed ale-houses. He smoked monopoly tobacco in monopoly pipes, played with monopoly dice or monopoly cards, or on monopoly lute-strings. He wrote with monopoly pens, on monopoly writing-paper; read (through monopoly spectacles, by the light of monopoly candles) monopoly printed books, including monopoly Bibles and monopoly Latin grammars, printed on paper made from monopoly saltpetre. He exercised himself with monopoly golf balls and in monopoly-licensed bowling alleys. A monopolist collected the fines which he paid for searing. He travelled in monopoly sedan chairs or monopoly hackney coaches, drawn by horses fed on monopoly hay. He tipped with monopoly farthings. At sea he was lighted by monopoly lighthouses. When he made his will, he went to a monopolist. (In Ireland one could not be born, married, or die without 6d. To a monopolist.) Pedlars were licensed by a monopolist. Mice were caught in monopoly mousetraps. Not all these patents existed at once, but all come from the first decades of the seventeenth century. In 1621 there were alleged to be 700 of them.
Apart possibly from beer and salt, these were not quite necessities. But monopolies added to the price of just those semi-luxuries which were beginning to come within the reach of yeoman and artisans whose standard of living was rising. They affected the daily life of hundreds of thousands of Englishmen. By the end of the sixteen-thirties they were bringing nearly £100,000 a year to the Exchequer.
Monopolies interfered with the normal channels of trade. Merchants were prohibited from landing their cargoes at the most convenient port whenever a monopolist’s right of search chanced to require their unloading elsewhere. By the late sixteen-thirties the economy was beginning to suffer. The clothing industry was hit by increased cost of soap and alum, and by the scarcity of potash caused by suppression of imports. The Greenland Company lacked oil. The salt monopoly embarrassed the Fishery Society. The rise in the price of coal hit nearly all industries. ‘No freeman of London,’ said a pamphlet of 1640, ‘after he hath served his years and set up his trade, can be sure long to enjoy the labour of his trade, but either his is forbidden longer to use it, or is forced at length with the rest of his trade to purchase it as a monopoly, at a dear rate, which they and all the kingdom pay for. Witness the soap business.’
Nor was the objection to monopolies only economic. Buckingham, the great monopoly-monger, had popish connections. The soap monopoly, which promised the King £20,000 a year in the sixteen-thirties, was attacked not only because it doubled the price and its inferior product blistered the hands of washer-women, but also because the monopolists were Papists. If we think of monopolies simply as a tax, then we can regard them as a crude anticipation of the excise, the value added tax on consumption later developed under Parliament’s auspices. The fiscal benefit to the crown from monopolies was considerable, but it could not compare with the injury done to the consumer and industry by the rise in prices. Every 1s. charged at the customs brought 10d in to the Exchequer; but 1s increased cost to consumers by monopolies brought a bare 1 1/2d to the Exchequer: the soap monopoly brought less than 1/2d. The rest went into the pockets of patentees and courtiers.
Since monopolies were enforced by the royal prerogative and the prerogative courts, they gave rise to constitutional conflicts. Parliament, the representative institution of the men of property, favoured greater industrial freedom. In 1624 Parliament declared that monopolies were opposed to the ‘fundamental laws of this...realm’. Because of its invasion by the prerogative, this Statute of Monopolies was described by a contemporary as ‘a bill against monarchy’. Charles evaded it by disregarding the common-law courts, and bringing cases affecting monopolies before Star Chamber, on the ground that his prerogative was being questioned. Sale of monopolies was the line of least resistance for governments in financial difficulties, and was extensively used in the sixteen-thirties. The knowledge that their patents would be attacked if Parliament ever met encouraged monopolists to aim at quick profits. Indeed, the King himself was not above selling the same patent twice over, so no patentee could be squeamish about consumers’ interests. It was a vicious circle.
The industrial revolution could not have happened if the system of monopolies had remained in place.
Hang onto your inflation hedges, because it doesn't look very good for America.