Compound pejoratives on Reddit
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On an unrelated note, when I was working on the C++ compiler back then, Zortech C++ had the option of presenting error messages in Japanese. There weren't many obvious Japanese translations for technical terms. C++ "destructors" in Japanese turned into "death tractors".
Sometimes I still get caught referring to destructors as death tractors.
In the other direction, you can't map English cursing word by word either. "Asshole" may be ketsu no ana, but the listener would hear that as "buttocks opening", not a personal insult. Which is not to say there aren't scatological insults in Japanese, kusottare (lit. shit-dripper) being a personal favorite.
More on the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_profanity
Here's a very similar online conversation which you were a part of on the D forums/newsgroup, about a D book being published in Japan. [1] That's page 2 where it's first mentioned, and your joyous reaction is on page 3.
Seems like at the time since Google Translate didn't know the term in its programming context it tried its best and gave back "death tractor" when trying to take "desutorakuta" back to English. Today though it gets it right (see "table of contents" tab in this link) [2].
That thread so matches what you're describing here, I wonder if it's the actual source?
[1] https://forum.dlang.org/thread/cpm7i4$ub1$1@digitaldaemon.co... [2] https://gihyo-jp.translate.goog/book/2005/4-7741-2208-4/?_x_...
But "death tractors" just never gets old.
My suggestion was rather that this 2004 event was actually when you first encountered the "death tractor" round-trip translation, not in the 80s. I won't belabor the point since obviously you would know much better than I would.
I just found it amusing to find such an exactly matching thread, still easily accessible. And as you say, "death tractor" is good in any decade.
Noun shitgibbon (plural shitgibbons)
2. (linguistics) A type of antibacchic compound word used as an insult, consisting of a single-syllable expletive, followed by an absurd or innocuous two-syllable noun as a trochee.
Also,
> a special tank you enter to jerk off.
feels rather insulting to me. It’s not exactly something I would want to be associated with.
The mind boggles when people go to a "support the environment" rally and then jump in these to go home...
I know it is predominantly Industry we need to look at regards environmental damage but personal responsibility has to step in somewhere.
[^] --> Category:Shitgibbons_by_language
[v] --> Category:German_shitgibbons
[v] --> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Arschgeige
“assviolin”
On a related note, there was a short-lived punk band in the 1980s called the Butt Trumpets.
that's excellent
But I also think that consonant clusters probably help. "banjo"? I think homophones probably dilute the effect so "organ", "cymbal" are out.
How about our Germanic language? "fiddle" is synonymous and has the proper metre. A regex dictionary search finds "bumfiddle(r)", which is only coincidentally close to "assviolin", having come from one of the other senses of "fiddle":
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/294173/what-is-t...
It is my pleasure to report from the German language that "Arschtrompete" (literally "Asstrumpet", figuratively "loser") is also at your service.
That's the kind of comment I'd expect of some shitlord assclown who doesn't know where their opinion stops and reality begins. Get out of your mom's basement and maybe you'll upgrade your personality to piss stain
I don't speak from experience on levelling this sort of insult though so I may not have got it quite right. I welcome both constructive & unconstructive criticism of my technique.
But cunt might also be used as a serious insult.
Entirely depends on context.
There's also a creative arabic language insult, or variation on it, that can be translated as "my dick in your religion" or "a thousand dicks in your religion"
(This implies that you are not mates, and may in fact be about to start having a not-good night)
I believe it is the Serbs who use "May the Pope fuck your 18th-great-grandmother." (How the Pope shall choose which one of the insultee's 524,288 candidate ancestors, that's not clear.)
The famous "Go fuck yourself" directed at the Russian warship by the Ukrainians translates, literally, even better: иди нахуй (idi nahui) = "go to dick".
the flat part is very important and makes it even more aggressive.
literally, kos chapat
the chapat is the same farsi original root word as you'd find in urdu and hindi for a chapati (the flat bread) or anything else that is flat.
Interesting question, and I could immediately propose:
-- that the subject ancestor availability on earth is considered a possibility, as they may be implicitly supposed to procreate at first biological occasion;
-- that the identity of said ancestor must crawl the female side of the chain, as "mater semper certa, pater numquam", especially supposedly in the case of the insultee.
Alternatively, we can make a slightly more idiomatic translation by fiddling a bit with the verb: “get on a dick” is my favourite version of this, conveying the meaning well without sacrificing too much accuracy.
You make a lot of assumptions about some people's family trees. What if the 17th grandmother is also your 16th grandmother on the other side?
Eg, small village, grandmother has 6 daughters, they have 6 daughters, out of the 36 daughters 20 could be lineage grandmothers.
In fact, the further back you go, the greater chance of overlap.
(Note: growing up in a small town has no bearing on me thinking of this! None!)
Or “your asshole is a fountain” is even better.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=F...
Also, the compound assclown was coined by Office Space: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2467219/how-office-space-co...
I had read somewhere that the altered line was intended to be read "no-talent-ass clown", but Herman read it as "no-talent ass-clown", and a fantastic insult was born. That part could be apocryphal though.
(meanwhile, hacked nudes and posts of judges home addresses with 'violence isn't the answer. it's the question and the answer is yes' "doesn’t violate Reddit’s Content Policy")
It is taking time but I'm trying to find replacements for reddit that either don't pretend to be moderated or are anti-crimes against humanity in their moderation.
It even doesn't need to be an obscure one, it just can be "not PC enough".
Can you guess what word got my post shadowbanned from r/powershell?
It's like the tumblr trend of suddenly switching to caps partway through a word, the verbal equivalent works but I know you're proofreading your posts.
We can trace back some common expressions of surprise or frustration to this character's name / title - crikey, jeepers, gee, I'm sure there's more - but I suppose those are both sufficiently linguistically distanced to be safe, and in the context of TFA somewhat anachronistic.
I mean I see things like "sweet monkey jesus" but I never see "shitchrist", y'know?
To wit - while the f-word appears ~ 14 times in the article, the c-word is notably absent. (EDIT: actually it's there, once, in a PNG, which is why it didn't come up on page-search.)
Referring to TFA's matrix, it looks like only a handful of potentially comfortable combinations that could use this fictional character's name against the suffixes and prefixes they've identified -- but they would feel a bit contrived.
It’s even Shakespearean: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:19...
Relation to the more modern asshat: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/some-notes-on-...
Also 'dipboy' is a weird.one. maybe a crypto thing..?
I don't know what shitshit is, although Y Combinator probably funded it if the founders were young enough and seemed to know how to talk to rich people.
Or maybe it’s just me not knowing Reddit.
I have a couple guesses as to what it would be, but don't want to dox myself, because they're usages that are still in the early stages of catching on.
No idea why.
Also I feel like this chart is inspiring me to experiment the next time I'm in the kinds of discussion where these compound words get used.
(And also, remember that "trump" is UK for "fart".)
Your provided example could be "Shut up, you libfuck, take that libshit back to /r/libcucks, you liblard!
Lib or Trump isn't necessarily pejorative, they may be used as such sometimes, but the words alone aren't always used as a pejorative.
The first word is WHO you are attacking, the second word is HOW you are attacking.
(I'm not British so I can't speak to local usage but I have never seen that usage online)
I doubt this is the meaning on Reddit.
It's a _little_ old-fashioned, but in fairly common use. Probably in more common use since the ascension of its namesake; it makes for a particularly obvious joke for comedy writers.
'trumpwit' is wonderful.
"Look at what you've done, you trumpwit!"
:-O
I lived in London for several years and never once did I come across this usage. TIL!