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HN in general tends to be on the pacifist, anti-militarist, technology-solves-everything side. Which is a pretty decent thing in general, don't get me wrong, but dogmatic followers of such attitudes got us Trump, the invasion of Ukraine and now this shit.

Si vis pacem para bellum, and there will be war. I honestly am unable to think of a scenario that will prevent a collapse of at least the US democracy, if not the rest of the world with it (because let's face it, the US picked up the tab to ensure the freedom of democracies while us Europeans stood aside). The only thing capable of stopping the spiral towards death is if the Democrats win a solid majority in November... but that is completely unrealistic.

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Sorry, as a non-American, I see the US has always been an imperialist nation that has encouraged regime changes whenever and wherever it felt its influence threatened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

I used to be a pro-American when I was a child blinded by US propaganda and television. Americans are heroes are what I always thought.!

Then the Iraq, Afghanistan wars, the coups in Libya and the Syrian War - encouraged via Obama's so-called 'moderate rapist rebels' completely changed my mind. What CNN said was completely different from what my Libyan and Syrian colleagues said. So Much Lying. It was around that time I did extensive reading of American history and realised I was a moron.

You have so much right and the trot out this doozie

> US picked up the tab to ensure the freedom of democracies while us Europeans stood aside

Cite! The US does anything it wants to keep corporate power corporate. We topple lots of democracies. US is squarely imperialist.

See my comment about Smedley Butler from earlier, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31469671

They're clearly talking about since WWII. When the US has definitely picked up the tab to ensure freedom for Europeans, Taiwanese, Japanese, Koreans, and former English colonies throughout the world.

Sure, the US was somewhat imperialist a century ago, but that's long gone.

You are spouting nonsense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism

I think we're in agreement about post WWII. The US was invited into Europe and paid a lot of money to hold off the Russians. It protected the Taiwanese, Koreans and Japanese. That's pretty much what I said.

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