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Let’s repeal the second amendment then. Let the states decide.

2nd amendment is a right codified in the constitution. Abortion is not in the constitution, which is what this ruling states. If congress wants to legalize abortion, then that's their job...to make laws. The supreme court does not make laws.

Yeah this seems like a quite simple affirmation of states rights in matters which have not been explicitly deferred to the federal government. I was kind of hoping to find good discussion at least on hacker news but it's the same nonsense as every other back water shithole on the internet. At this point 4chan is having a more nuanced discussion :( I'm increasingly convinced we will see the US split - and to be honest after today I would be quite happy for that to happen since a large contingent of people don't seem to understand or even want to operate in the legal frameworks we have.

States rights? See the US split? Crazy, I feel like we've been down this road before...

Enjoy that nuanced 4chan discussion, though!

Firstly, the 2nd amendment.... was an AMENDMENT to the constitution. Second, the right of abortion was determined from incorporation of other guaranteed rights (here, the right to privacy). Please either brush up on your undergrad political science course materials or review summaries of decisions via the Library of Congress.

Coming poorly equipped to these arguments shows much more about the individual than their interpretation of constitutionality.

> Second, the right of abortion was determined from incorporation of other guaranteed rights (here, the right to privacy)

Correct, and it was a very unstable way to enable abortions. It has always been under threat of being over turned because it was a weak argument. Even RBG said that it was weak.

Yeah, I've see a few other people parroting the "RGB even said..." thing, but what's your point?

The rights to privacy and bodily autonomy are not nascent concepts in the course of this country's establishment of civil liberties, and today's ruling was a disgusting application of the Supreme Court's power.

Exactly. If you want it as a law then work with the appropriate people who operate through the appropriate channels to make it a law. Don't try to circumvent the process by using a different body that is not meant to legislate.

I'm not sure what you mean - make what a law?

The right to abortion.

Lots of things aren't in the constitution, which is the purpose of the 9th amendment. Surely bodily autonomy is something that falls within the spirit of what the founding fathers were aiming for. Benjamin Franklin certainly took no issues with abortion.

Nothing preventing you from trying but its a pretty tall order.

Do you willfully misunderstand my point? I’m demonstrating the lie.

Nothing willful about my stupidity. The lie is what? States rights above all? Nobody made that claim.

With you on your first point.

No, you are not.

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