3AC isn’t just large. 3AC is the largest trader by volume in the world for like 4 years. Them going bankrupt is like long term capital management going bankrupt.
Every time I make a comment about this I get downvoted by the crypto gang.
What's happened now is that the Fed has suddenly withdrawn its cheap and easy money and these people are having a wile-e-coyote moment. Currently they're suspended in mid air with nothing below.
Crypto isn't to blame, neither is the Fed (maybe), it's just the hangover from covid and the war in Ukraine.
No way. COVID and the war are just the straws that broke the camel's back, they just helped bring down this house of cards that was the bubble economy the Fed created purely out of cheap money I'm the last decade, and overinflated in the last 2 years.
COVID and the supply chain disruptions it caused, was the perfect wake-up call to parachute the economy back down to earth, but instead they just kept the money printer running at full speed until the war came.
How is COVID and the war to blame that the Fed quadroupled the money supply in just 2 years? How was that house of cards ever going to be sustainable?
Of course the war brought it down. And if the war wouldn't have happened, something else would have brought it down instead. It was just not sustainable.
Basically, Wall Street created a "You're locked in here with me" scenario for the entire American public. Everyone has to throw their money at some speculative asset category, typically stocks, to have a meaningful chance of beating inflation. (Yeah, real estate, fine art, and Yu-gi-oh cards exist, but they're far less fungible and liquid at the scales required)
This creates a political feedback loop: the S&P 500 must keep going up in perpetuity because we're all afraid of being 82 years old and in failing health but having to still flip burgers to afford our medication. Ergo, policies like super-low interest rates that make alternatives like bonds ever less compelling and focus ever more interest in an asset bubble.
TBH, I feel like there's a real opportunity to ask "why are we investing."
For people forced into the market for things like retirement and educational savings, maybe we need some sort of contribution-based scheme, rather than a market-price-based one. Sign up now, contribute an agreed-upon sum for N years, and you get your retirement condo/kid's tuition at Harvard prepaid in 2044. Make the institutions-- the ones with teams of actuaries on staff and the financial backstop to handle it-- eat the inflation risk instead of the individual with a net worth of $650 on a good day.
That sort of program could remove a lot of the "mere mortals who stand to lose everything" from the market. The political benefit is then it returns Wall Street to being a casino for the rich and distasteful, and makes it much easier to propose regulation or managed-growth policies. When not everyone is chained to the market through a 401(k), the threats of a market tank don't bite quite as hard.
It isn't. The "crypto bubble" also includes an over-inflated sense of the significance of crypto-currencies.
As opposed to embedding that failure into the core of the system to protect a few interests so that the same issues are surfacing 20 years later.
That doesn't seem all that bad.
While I do not subscribe to the ideals of anarcho capitalism at all this is one feature of crypto culture that I think they got right.
We’ve been here before, we’ll be here again, a bunch of people will lose money and the cycle will repeat. It’ll all work out.
It's fine for a bunch of pokemon card traders to get rekt - but by the time you get to 3AC scale, it's time for regulators to put the kibosh on the whole space. They're securities. They either get registered or you go to Club Fed.
With all due respect, fingers crossed, this time it does not work out.
[1] https://www.cdpq.com/en/news/pressreleases/celsius-network-a...
I don’t see where lack of regulation is a selling point—it greatly limits invested capital.
There's no technical merit in crypto that actually makes things fast, it's just a regulation dodge. It's necessarily slower and more expensive than TransferWise.
They have decided it's better to avoid their local businesses being beholden to foreign investors, which is a case that can be argued.
If you're being directed mostly by overseas investors who will never see your actual operation in person, that increases the pressure to cook the books, either on a direct accounting-level basis, or by cutting corners in operations, environmental or labour standards, or product quality.
Notice how some countries insist on joint ventures with a 51% local partner, which similarly ensures there's some local skin in the game.
- so there's somebody in France that can *make money* being the middle man
- so the French broker can be held to some standards reporting and what not. For example, the French broker at risk of criminal prosecution cannot sell shares to NK or Iran.
- so the rules around transfer of shares for payment and settlement are set so people can't be screwing each over or not completing settlement in a timely fashion
- because of scale: there are zillions of trades done every day. that's why netting-out is a real thing. settlement has to be fast, tight, nailed down. And regulation helps with that through known pre-approved brokers with set roles and responsibilities
Also consider that unlike crypto you gotta settle. Settlement is serious. And settle in a bonafide currency that everybody agrees is a currency: EUR, for example. And you have fixed time to do it in.
You can't be waving your hands with some stupid story about how your broker/holder of crypto,
- stopped you from withdrawing your stuff
- is down
- is in chapter 7 or 11
- that you forgot your crypto keys
- and the entity getting the cash for selling shares isn't gonna wait around for some miner to "approve" your transfer maybe in 10 mins ... or maybe tomorrow
I'm not sure what you mean by centrally registered clients. You can still use bitcoin peer to peer. Also the idea that banning peer to peer bitcoin would be what would make decentralization not worthwhile feels rather circular.
To trade you need to be registered by regulated entity, it’s already a centralised environment. You’re also purchasing shares issued by a centralised issuer, the corporation. Your suggestion that bitcoin offers any solution to settlement (much less a superior solution), just escapes me
No, that's your public institution making degenerate gambles on late-stage startups. The largest venture capital investor in Canada isn't some poor victim, they are the perpetrators, the owners. It's completely laughable to paint them as a victim of some crypto-ecosystem heist.
Neither should the fund be allowed to invest in Ponzi schemes, nor should the so-called investments be permitted to run them in the open.
[edit] I'd have the same criticism of both if they'd invested in Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC.
EDIT: nice to see all the luddites downvoting me. Guess the meme is true -- we still are early.
I recommend reading Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds published originally in 1841 [2].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Sea_Company
[2] https://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Popular-Delusions-Madne...
There is something about a useless or immoral business that often excites greed beyond what anything beneficial to society can.
We are not currently in a recession.
If we get into a recession in the next quarter or two, there's no harm done to crypto. The market is headed into bear territory regardless of the macro economic climate.
I swear no one remembers 2017. Thousands of projects that raised billions of dollars died. No one cares. The market rebuilds itself every 3-5 years. This is absolutely no different.
This game of lending crypto assets for ridiculous interest rates wasn't nearly as popular last time, was it?
- ICOs - DAOs - NFTs - Yield - Earn - Farming
etc. All of these can be ephemeral concepts within a single crypto bull cycle. Regardless of whether or not you think crypto is valuable, there's no denying people love money. So long as crypto remains unregulated there will always be bull markets imo.
The 2020 Covid crash was a recession. A very short one, but also one of the most severe since the Great Depression. Bitcoin crashed from about $10,000 to $4,000 in the span of 3 weeks, before recovering and peaking at nearly $70,000.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/past-rece...
What might be correct to say is that bitcoin has never gone through stagflation, but that's a terrifying prospect for every person and asset class.
Which ironically would be bullish for bitcoin . stocks rebounded huge after the 1998 crisis.