Is there a rash of homeless people running chop shops? That seems shocking. Tools are expensive - where do they keep them? Are they dissecting cars under bridges?
Most use a hacksaw I suspect.
Right. It's unclear if that distinction is understood here.
Yes, I understand that the people doing the stealing and the people running the chop shop are usually not the same people.
It's now clear to me that you did not mean that, and rather meant something like "Homeless people that are street thieves."
A few tools, yes, but secluded space no.
https://abc7news.com/chop-shop-bicycle-theft-san-jose-downto...
The ones I'm more familiar with are for taking apart bikes. I imagine that's much easier to do, in terms of tooling and space, than cars (and also less likely to bring down the cops).
> It's now clear to me that you did not mean that, and rather meant something like "Homeless people that are street thieves."
No. Both the stealing and the taking apart of bikes seem linked to the growing homelessness issue we're seeing.
Chop shops are by definition for taking apart motor vehicles.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chop_shop
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chop%20shop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chop_shop
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/chop-...
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/chop-shop
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/chop...
That's why the title of the article you link to is
"San Jose neighbors describe bicycle 'chop shops,' share concerns about additional criminal behavior"
with 'chop shops' in single quotes.
I'm sorry we can't agree on a common vocabulary. Take care.
Using the term to describe taking apart bikes has also become common. Language evolves. Don't blame me, take it up with *gestures at all of human history*.
It's true, especially for things like bicycles or small engines.
> Tools are expensive - where do they keep them?
Some of the camps are quite elaborate.
> Are they dissecting cars under bridges?
yes. It's been getting worse around Sacramento for several years now.
> Some of the camps are quite elaborate.
They are. However, tools are expensive thus need to be locked securely. Think: storage unit, not elaborate connected tents.
>> Are they dissecting cars under bridges?
> yes. It's been getting worse around Sacramento for several years now.
Hey, I live in Sacramento too!
I've never seen what you're talking about. Where in Sacramento can I see that?
They're really not. A Dewalt sawzall is a common catalytic converter theft tool. They're not super expensive, and tools are also commonly stolen items. You don't need a storage unit to keep a few tools you use to chop up bikes. (I'm not thinking of a whole vehicle storage yard when I think 'chop shop.')
>> yes. It's been getting worse around Sacramento for several years now.
>Hey, I live in Sacramento too! >I've never seen what you're talking about. Where in Sacramento can I see that?
where can you see homeless camps? they're all over the place. Down Folsom Blvd towards Sac State, the W/X freeway, all over the interchange, right off the 15th St exist into downtown, a few of them along Broadway down towards 99, etc. Those are just ones that I drive by on a regular basis.
It's really bad up along Roseville Rd towards the city dump too. so many RVs and homemade structures.
Up towards the Blue Diamond plant too, and a whole bunch of camps down along and under 160. It's almost unsafe to ride a bicycle across the C st bridge because of all of the camps that are in the parks along the American River. There's also a ton of RVs across 160 from Costco too.
not sure how you have never seen any of this, but it's really quite visible.
What is this based on?
Here's a 20 second video some took on Roseville Rd alone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sacramento/comments/glttob/rosevill...
And that's just one stretch of that road. Feel free to drive down that way if you are ever in the area. it's quite eye opening.
Every claim says it's 'reality'; that's why they need evidence.
The evidence is a Reddit video (!) of one road?
Your replies sound very (and unnecessarily) dismissive. I have nothing to prove. The situation proves itself.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/is-chop-shop-operating-plai...