Survey: iPhone owners spend more, have higher incomes than Android users

Pretty sure this is a joke.

What does this mean?

> They are devices, not personality attributes by which people should be measured.

Who is measuring people like this? How can “people” even be measured?

People with higher incomes probably buy more expensive phones. You already have their income on a loan application, so you don't need a blackbox NN model to confirm it.

Throwing in a bunch of corrolated features into a model won't help improve accuracy.

But if you throw in a bunch of weak features that together sum to a predictor of race (or other protected attributes), then aside from being grossly unethical, may well be illegal.

1) Will it continue to be legal?

2) Do I care about ethical concerns and does something being legal make it ethical?

Other people who are in a different position from you will be exploring this to determine if #1 should be changed.

Apple doesn't make a product that costs less than $430 (the SE). If you need a cheaper phone, you have to go Android. For lots of people, $400 is a lot of money (especially if you're also buying phones for your kids, who are likely to break whatever you buy them). In lots of families it's iphone for the grownups, android for the kids. And that's just within the US.

On a global scale, if you're selling phones outside of the US and European markets, some part of your product lineup has to be in the sub $200 range (in addition to the flagships you sell everywhere). For example, in India, Xiaomi sells the Redmi 9A for Rs 8,000 (about $100). They're competing with Samsung phones we don't see in the US, like the Galaxy M series, which are in the same price category. Those phones exist because (a) people need cell phones (especially in places where a phone might be your primary access to the internet) and (b) Apple is choosing not to go after those customers.

Even though Samsung makes a more expensive flagship, the average income of Android users will always be lower because (a) there are more poor people world-wide than rich people, and (b) Apple isn't making phones for poor people, while Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, etc. are. Apple's strategy is totally working for them (selling a luxury product at luxury prices works well) but it also means that most poor people (which is most people) won't ever have one, so the average income of an iOS user will always be higher (along with the other things that go along with a higher income, like higher spending).

Of course, they may be wrong, since they didn't cite anything. But I would clearly be surprised to learn that the average Android phone sold isn't cheaper than the average iPhone sold.

They cant even run the OS. I switched from Android (Galaxy) to iPhone and now just recently my iPhone.

Unfortunately thanks to god awful 2fa systems, I decided to get a burner phone immediately, and decide on a new daily driver later that week.

Oh my God, this thing is bad. It was a $149 Nokia and the cheapest unlocked phone at the target next door.

I booted up this phone, and the first thing I see, after the splash screen before any interface is presented is a bunch of dialogs about system services ceasing. Then I tried to get a few apps I typically need for the day. Google play is telling me I don't have any space on this brand new phone. Turns out it's a known bug with a solution of "reboot". Ok whatever, but now apps are telling me I don't have a SIM which is pretty odd because the OS says otherwise and the web browser could access the network just fine. This was a reported issue, but with no states causes or fixed, I ended up using a different SIM and it worked. Now, I have most things installed and working, but for a very minimal definition of working. Constant lag when trying to do things as simple as switch between apps and media streams playing long after the app playing it was closed.

Also, this may just be me, but does anyone feel like Android UX has degraded. I never had isues navigating and using old Android. It took me a while to get used to iOS, and I definitely have my qualms, but the new gesture system is killing me. OS gestures and App specific gestures collide, leading to inconsistenties and annoyances. I also find myself fat fingering buttons and other UI controls more, but that may be because a bigger screen.

Android has it's issues, but phone prices should be going downward over time, not up. The core components of most competing phones are mostly made in the same factories now.

Years ago I got a Samsung Galaxy 8 which came preloaded with CNN and Facebook. After uninstalling those apps, I poked around with adb and found services still running for CNN and Facebook. Made me also despise non-Pixel devices.

For a long while my daily driver was a Pixel 4 (probably my favorite phone hardware of all time) running GrapheneOS and then eventually CalyxOS. If I were to ever switch back to Android I would 100% go back to Pixel running CalyxOS. I absolutely loved that setup.

Things that keep me on iOS:

- On-demand VPN. I use Wireguard and it is unnoticeable when it automatically turns on when I leave home. I was able to use Tasker on Android to unreliably replicate this functionality.

- Apple Shortcuts. Android could really benefit from a first-party automation toolset, Tasker is still pretty mediocre compared to Shortcuts from my somewhat recent tinkering.

- Apple is a decent steward of data and I'm encouraged by the continuing privacy features they release (Private Relay is awesome). Despite this, I try to avoid the walled garden as much as possible. Homekit is one area where I've totally invested into but could switch that out with HA if I ever switched back to Android.

Things I miss from Android:

- Sideloading. F-Droid is the best -- I miss sideloading so much and hope that Apple is eventually forced into allowing users to actually sideload (not the temporary 7-day renewal you are forced to do). Because of the ability to sideload you can embrace an open source ecosystem so much more than you can on iOS.

- Custom, debloated roms.

Aside from those drawbacks I am a big fan of both Android and iOS and find very little difference in how useful each OS is to me.

EDIT: fixed formatting and minor typo

I recently saw someone denied check in when they only had their phone at the Shangri La in Sydney a year or so ago.

Thinking back, the only time I've used contactless to pay for a hotel was at the Six Senses in Fiji. Four Seasons & Ritz Reserve usually still do the whole folio presentation thing at check out. Most of the standard corporate hotels (Hyatt, IHG, Marriott) I've been to have let you check out in their app to the card on file.