ACM Makes Thousands of Research Articles Freely Available; Opens First 50 Years
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31447465
“ACM Digital Library Archive is Open Access with 50 Years of Published Records” (acm.org)
473 points by yarapavan 23 days ago | 51 comments
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30944881
ACM Opens First 50 Years Backfile
177 points by mitchbob 66 days ago | 49 commentsQuick note: They are planning on opening the whole archive in a few years but it is still a work in progress. The plan is for 2025 for the whole archive to be opened. They released the first 50 years now in part because it timed well to the 75th anniversary.
Finally, the org's 75th anniversary livestream took place on Friday, more info about it is here: https://www.acm.org/75-celebration-event
> “Our goal is to have it open in a few years, but there’s very real costs associated with [the open-access work],” Hanson said. “We have models so that we can pay for it.”
This sort of confuses me even more. Is the "paying for it" talking about the work needed to be done to make each paper open-access, or is this talking about funding the ability to host the papers?
Just curious about what the costs are that are mentioned and the plan to cover those costs and how the results in needing to open access to papers in tranches. Maybe the model could be adopted by other journals, too?
- Accounting for the loss in revenue from changing a service that was once commercial (as this would be an example of a loss of a "nondues revenue," something a lot of organizations are actually trying to increase so as to cut back their reliance on membership dues)
- Potential rights considerations (there are magazine articles with photos in that archive, for example, and many of those might have contracts/ownership considerations to work through)
- The labor of actually managing the transition (with something like this you wouldn't want to just run a script to open it up, you probably would have to double-check things, and there are simply a lot of things). They have to budget for any employee work used to handle this transition.
They emphasized to me in our interview, however, that the issue was not technical; I actually thought it might be given the amount of content there is, but as they're quoted as saying in the piece, the real work centered around the creative decision-making around actually making a call like this.
What’s the relation?
Bryan, if you're reading this, I'm not a stalker. Apparently being accused of making a "submarine post" makes for a thorough reply, from me at least, even never having heard the term before.
[0] https://paperswelove.org/2016/video/bryan-cantrill-jails-and-solaris-zones/
[1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/1052676.1052707
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVkCfgsLQ4]
incidentally, if anyone knows how to get hn to put my citations on separate lines without indenting do let me know, I tried a few different markdownisms but this was the best I could do.[0] http://dtrace.org/blogs/bmc/2008/07/18/revisiting-the-intel-...
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(When I need something I can't get through my library, #icanhazpdf, find on scihub, or other googley means; I just email the author. Though that can take some time.)