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A related question to illuminate this: when will we see the new Mac Pro? Will it be M1, M2 based, or something different from those two?

The current Mac Pro was released in December of 2019. Apples said they’d release a new Pro eventually. But they’re historically beyond slow at updating the Pro. They even invented the iMac Pro as a sort of tide-over before releasing the 2019 Pro. Also helpful to contrast this with TSMCs release cycle. Apple is so slow to update the Pro that they might just wait until the start of a “node cycle” at TSMC to maximize the time they can ship unchanged hardware on it.

Ie, going to be a long wait.

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They also said at WWDC 2020 on June 22 that they would have completed the transition within two years. So somewhere between 13 days and a very long time away.

I can totally see Apple spinning "December 2022" as being within two years of WWDC 2020.

Just looked it up and the first machines that shipped with M1 were released on November 10th so you might be right considering they never said 2 years from WWDC 2020 specifically.

Right, I just reviewed his comments at the end of the presentation, and it's easy to interpret Cook's comments as roughly 2 years from the first Mac at the end of 2020.

https://youtu.be/GEZhD3J89ZE (roughly 1:45:00)

I assume by November/December 2022. I think they meant 2 years from the release of the first Apple silicon Macs which was in November 2020.

With the introduction of the Mac Studio, I'm starting to think that the rumors of it being designated as something else (e.g. X1) make sense. It might be a different version to meet the wants and needs of the Pro customers.

Isn't the Mac Studio sort of the replacement for the Mac Pro? The branding is different, but it's certainly the beefier Mac you can get at the moment.

That’s the thing I can’t really square. The Studio even approaches Pro prices at the upper configurations.

No – they explicitly stated at the time the Studio was released that a new Pro is on the way.

I would expect it to be released around the November timeframe, which would mark two years since the first M1 release and matches with the two-year transition timeline they initially pitched.

I wasn't aware of that statement. Guess in time we'll get news about the Pro.

I'm wondering how much "Pro" market is left after the Studio - which must have cannibalized some of the sales that would normally have gotten a Mac Pro.

Apple does seem to be one of those companies that are quite happy with cannibalising themselves. It's probably more important and beneficial long term when users stay within the ecosystem than totally offload themselves to Windows/Linux.

Sure - but then it gets harder to exactly define the Mac Pro compared to the Studio (especially since right now the defining thing would be video cards, which isn't something that the M* processors really support yet).

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