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Congrats on the launch, I would use this for my smaller team. Why have a pricing page with no pricing on it though?

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because they want to look at crunchbase and find out how much funding you got then charge you based off that.

I wish companies would boycott companies doing contact us for pricing

> I wish companies would boycott companies doing contact us for pricing

A lot of companies do, by simply never contacting them for pricing.

Well, then they would charge me pennies because the startup I work for has $0 funding :)

Thank you for the kind words and feedback.

If you email jj@rootly.com we can get you some pricing ASAP. It'll be dependent on number of users and level of support/onboarding/custom feature development required.

But if you're a small team, Rootly is powerful and ready to go out of the box with defaults and you might not require some of the custom stuff.

To answer your question directly, we customize each package for each individual customer on a bunch of variables.

I'm sorry, but if your pricing is too complex to write out on the pricing page so I can know upfront if it's even worth talking to you, I won't reach out to you. It also suggests that your pricing is simply too complex, and that would hurt me as a paying customer as well, as I wouldn't fully understand the invoices I receive from you.

Building a calculator that lets potential customers input their variables and you show what the pricing would do solves that problem fully, and takes minimal amount of time to implement.

That you haven't spent that short amount of time in order to be transparent, looks shady to me (and others, some of them even write the same in this comment thread), as otherwise you'd surely display your pricing upfront.

Thank you for the feedback, a calculator is a good suggestion! We realize there are a fair number of people that will be turned away by this, we'll see what we can do for a better middle ground.

I’d also suggest you have a free plan for very small teams. You can already see how many slack members they have. Make your tool so people just make it their default and then as the team grows the naturally start paying you up the tiers.

Thank you for the feedback.

Actually we did offer a free plan for up to 5 users and even 10 at one point. What we've found is the collaboration overhead during incidents at companies at that scale wasn't too useful and pivoted away. Instead we offer a 14-day trial so customers can get their feet wet without contacting us: https://rootly.com/users/sign_up.

If there is no pricing, I will likely never return. If you cannot get your money right, how can I expect you will get anything else right?

Appreciate the feedback!

You seem to have an implicit assumption that there will necessarily be some amount of "support/onboarding/custom feature development" needed.

For the vast majority of your users, I would expect the amount of installation-engineering required to be zero. For every big business on an Enterprise plan of a SaaS like e.g. Cloudflare, there are 10 or 20 accounts for customers just as big(!) who are on their Business plan — which is basically the same feature-set, but without any of the high-touch custom stuff. Because they don't need any of it, in order to get all the value they need from the SaaS.

In other words, it feels like you have an Enterprise plan, but no Business plan. It's pretty easy to construct one — just assume any high-touch stuff doesn't happen. What's the base cost, per user?

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