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The only way to fix this is you have to build a new cloud that has lower networking costs and force the existing competitors to lower their prices.

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There are "clouds" with lower networking costs, like Digitalocean/linode. But they are not "capable" enough to support a sizable company. Actually, networking is like a "tax" on top of the whole platform.

One of the real problems is that cloud providers can just waive cross-AZ traffic for their own managed services but charge a lot for cloud customers.

> One of the real problems is that cloud providers can just waive cross-AZ traffic for their own managed services but charge a lot for cloud customers.

That is why no matter how smart your software is they'll always have the upper hand and build things better themselves (why everybody using the BSL license).

There is one administrator. I always found that fallacy the hardest to realize.

It’s like owning the entire supply chain. I remember this bit from someone who used to work at Heroku. It’s impossible for us to switch we spent so much time making the system work with AWS, switching or adding another provider would be a kin to starting over.

What can everyone do before that "new cloud" happens? The approaches like the above post mentioned how their cloud database tries different things from technology side seems the right and practical way to pursue though.

> What can everyone do before that "new cloud" happens?

Suffer and try to vote with your wallet (example oracle cloud has lower bandwidth pricing).

emm... moving and rebuilding whole systems onto another cloud is another wallet-ache thing, but yes, things may change if everyone votes with their wallet. The reality is that the big players like Snowflake or Databricks can have more bargain power than smaller players on the market, and as long as those big players stay with these providers, it may not change the game.

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