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The parent comment linked to a tweet where he ~says~ implies everyone else working remotely is "pretend working".

Also in the emails:

> There are of course companies that don't require this, but when was the last time they shipped a great new product? It's been a while.

Seriously, no one else except Tesla in the whole world ships great products?

He also regularly makes disparaging comments on his competitors whether it's auto manufacturers, the self driving industry or even insults at politicians. Seems totally unnecessary for someone in his position of power.

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> everyone else working remotely is "pretend working"

Can you quote? I didn't see this in the sent emails, which is the news being discussed. He said everyone working remotely is pretending to work?

> Seriously, no one else except Tesla in the whole world ships great products?

Taking pride in ones own products is very common in companies. In any case, I don't think these qualify as insulting, if you feel insulted, I'm guessing you'll be feeling offended very often.

> Can you quote?

It’s right there in the parent comment: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568

Pretty clear he thinks working remotely is pretend working.

> if you feel insulted, I'm guessing you'll be feeling offended very often.

I like how you ignored the next paragraph where I said he disparages everyone and went straight to telling me I’m sensitive. I’m not surprised though.

> I like how you ignored the next paragraph where I said he disparages everyone and went straight to telling me I’m sensitive. I’m not surprised though.

He may do this occasionally. Your original comment said "always".

> Always disparaging and insulting people who don't agree with this controversial views

So I didn't feel the need you address it, because you were arguing something different than what you originally said. I don't think you're sensitive, I think you don't use words like "insult" with precision.

> It’s right there in the parent comment:

It doesn't imply he thinks everyone working remotely is pretending. That's your, very unkind, interpretation.

You’re just nitpicking. He’s pretty condescending and disparaging on such a regular basis it might as well be “always”.

Fine, he always does it, but not in the emails shown in the tweets.

> The parent comment linked to a tweet where he says everyone else working

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568

> hey elon a lot of people are talking about this leaked email, any additional comment to people who think coming into work is an antiquated concept?

> They should pretend to work somewhere else

I think it’s a reasonable interpretation that Musk is saying people working remotely are only pretending to work. For people who believe they have been working hard remotely, IMO it’s easy to see why this could be viewed as insulting.

> I think it’s a reasonable interpretation that Musk is saying people working remotely are only pretending to work

He's clearly talking about people who think coming into the office is an antiquated concept, not people working remotely.

I don't agree with this, but this is simply what's written.

The exact quote is in this Tweet:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568

> They should pretend to work somewhere else

Not exactly the same as "everyone working remotely is 'pretend working'", but implies as much.

The discussion here is about the tweet linked to in the top-level comment:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568

To be fair, I am working remotely and pretending to work as I read this thread right now. I did a lot less pretending when I was in the office.

Sounds like remote work doesn’t suit you then. A lot of people are productive working remotely.

I don't disagree

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