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Are we going to see the Mango in action inside a Nokia phone?

Most probably..

Yes, but a lot of the leaks suggest these might be mid-range phones, unfortunately. And a U.S. launch in 2011 seems unlikely.

It's like everyone involved with Windows Phone is looking for reasons to take potential customers and make them keep saying "Well, maybe I want one of these at some point, but clearly today isn't the day to go buy one."

First, cut and paste is coming at some point, then it was delayed. Then Mango is coming at some point with multitasking and a bunch of other stuff. Now, handsets newer than a year old are only slowly trickling out, the country with the best OS-supported services is late getting them, and the handsets may or may not be coming to any given customer's carrier anyway.

To say nothing of all the time this gives people to settle in permanently with iPhone or Android in the meantime.

It's like a business school case study in how to keep customers from taking action.

On the contrary, I'm very happy with the way things are happening. Sure, I hope to wake up tomorrow and here that the Nokia Searay is real, is awesome, and is available to buy immediately (with free same-day shipping). That would be awesome.

But the reality is that the first batches of Windows Phones did not sell well. There are a lot of reasons for it, there is a lot of blame to go around. Nevertheless it's understandable that the carriers weren't urgent to get more Windows Phones. They do seem to be relatively excited about Mango, though. The Focus S seems like a pretty awesome phone to me. As does the Titan. As does (hopefully, if it's real) the Searay.

Since they've gone MS I couldn't care less.

I could care less, for example BlackBerry.

Dang! Blackberry even has to take shots in a Nokia thread? Well, allow me to retort! At least Blackberry has copy and paste! And network security! And BBM! And, um... that's all I got.

It seems to be de rigeur to hate on Blackberry these days. But I think people are starting to realize that the smartphone market = more than the Facebook + Angry Birds continuum. http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/10/why-people-stil...

Both Nokia's Symbian phones and Blackberry still have enviable mind and market share when you look at them globally. Reports of the death of either have been greatly exaggerated.

Windows Phone, however, is fast going the way of the Zune. Looks great, and is, in point of actual fact, a nifty platform, but nobody you know has one. Say what you will about Symbian and Blackberry, there are phones out there loaded with those OSes that are selling. Blackberry's profit may be off by 50% for the quarter, but it is still a profit.

Windows Phone needs a flagship Nokia device soon, or it is going to go the way of the Zune and the Kin.

I'm sorry. Though I do personally have no interest in BlackBerry, I must admit my reply was mainly to create a rare instance of a discussion where "couldn't care less" and "could care less" were both used correctly ;)

I've never quite understood this "I don't know what it is, but I hate it" attitude.

Have we really gotten ourselves into the situation where we have to blindly follow the PR from our favorite phone manufacturer and piss any competing announcement before it's even announced?

Judging from the agenda, Nokia World is primarily for developers.

Nokia Series 60 sold 116 million handsets a year, 36% worldwide market share.

Windows Phone 7 has roughly a 2% worldwide market share.

Yes, it's very easy to say "I don't know what it is, but I hate it." At a 2% market share, it doesn't make commercial sense for developers to pay attention.

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