As I've previously said, some people will hate this format.
If you're one of them, just click on a node to read the tweets via the Twitter interface.
If you're one of them, just click on a node to read the tweets via the Twitter interface.
Have you considered a HN/generic forum display output format? :)
But I have a version of this to visualise Mastodon discussion, HN discussions, and I have a tool that lets you have discussions directly in the graph format, including being able to tie threads together to help people come to conclusions.
So, sort of. It's all a long way off being usable, though.
Here's an example of another chart produced by my system:
https://www.solipsys.co.uk/Chartter/ReadingHeyer_20220429.sv...
How would you produce that with newlines and tabs? If you're suggesting the usual linear/indented version that existing social media systems use, that's exactly what I'm trying to get away from, so I can properly visualise the entire tree, seeing descendants as descendants, and not as a comment a long way down the page.
Maybe I'm just not understanding what you're suggesting.
Having an option to go top down might help, as would ability to collapse branches and maybe zoom out/in to get a broader overview and then focus on certain areas.
In the left-to-right view I had to scroll down to get to the root of the tree and I was confused what I was looking at until I saw that - ensuring that the root node is always visible on load would probably help a lot.
Seems like something D3 might be good at, making it more interactive instead of static svg?
I've used other more dynamic layout systems, but they tend to wobble about and give me motion sickness, or not do as well with the layout. There's a lot going on here.
Yes, foldability, forcing layout, allowing people to move things around, I've tried all of these to the best of my ability, and other people have had a go, then given up and gone away. To do a decent job will require skill and time, neither of which I have.
I am, as you might be able to tell, frustrated with this. I know very much how Ted Nelson feels. I have a vision, and I have neither the skillz to implement it, nor the ability to communicate it clearly to others. Yes, there are many things that can be done here.
But, you know, whatever works for you.
I opened the chart and thought "I am supposed to look at the thing on the screen". It was a reply out of context so it didn't make sense. I didn't consider clicking through because there is not an affordability of clicking like an arrow or a URL. I didn't scroll around because the thing I saw didn't grab my interest.
I saw your other post and scrolled down to the top tweet on the left. I looked to the immediate right for the self-reply to the top tweet. It wasn't there, so I gave up. I didn't notice the lines heading off-screen and I didn't expect them there. My mental model was a tree with a single top-level element.
So it's the usual problem of helping the novices versus annoying the experienced. Given that there's no login or other persistence I'm pretty sure I can't solve that. I'll probably put the top-left node back in.
Thanks for the feedback.
An idea I just had: a little inlay in the upper right showing where you are in the complete image. That would help people realize they could scroll around as well as helping them get context of the shape of the tree.