> Social media
>> All countries have that
> Violent video games
>> All other countries have that
> Media reporting on violence
>> All other countries have that
> Mental illness
>> Other countries have it worse
> Lack of Religion
>> Some other countries have that
At some point we are left with just one variable that is different from these other countries
If the alternative to making guns much harder to access is to conscript everyone in the country for a few years to try and beat the gun culture out of them, good freakin luck
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_g...
https://www.factsinstitute.com/ranking/countries-by-murder-r...
We should also adjust for known dependent variables, like population, population density, crime rates, number of guns in circulation (i.e., we would intuitively expect fewer mass shootings from a small, sparse, low-abiding country with few guns in circulation irrespective of gun laws)—Australia has only 8% of the US population and only 10% of the density—not sure about crime rates. I also suspect there were fewer guns in circulation prior to 1996, so even if officials could get the same share removed from the US market, it would likely leave more guns in circulation than in America (even adjusting for population, etc)—I also doubt Americans would be as willing to give up their guns as Australians were in ‘96, so the odds that America could get the same share of guns off the market as Australia did seems unlikely.
That said, I’ve read that Australia’s gun count has crept back up to pre-96 levels (not sure if that is per capita or not), which is interesting—potentially it suggests there’s something else going on: either it matters what type of guns are banned (e.g., semi-automatic handguns), or perhaps there’s an altogether different reason or hidden factor behind the decline in Australian mass shootings.
In any case, mass shootings is probably the wrong metric, but rather we probably want to look at number of mass murder deaths overall (presumably some people switch to stabbings or arson, but both of these are probably result in fewer fatalities). It’s also not clear to me why we fixate on mass murders/shootings rather than homicides overall—is it really worse when 10 people are killed all at once rather than 10000 people killed individually?
The UK for example changed gun laws after a mass school shooting 26 years ago. Not a single one since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_shooting
Another one in 2018:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Moss_Side_shooting
And another in 2010:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings
And in 2009:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massereene_Barracks_shooting
Britain has also had numerous mass stabbings, bombings, and vehicle ramming attacks.
School mass shootings. The last one in the UK definitely was in 1996 (17 dead), after which gun control laws were tightened : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre
But let's take a look at your examples :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_shooting (2021)
6 dead.
It was the first fatal mass shooting in the UK since the Cumbria shootings of 2010. In response, the Home Office announced that it would issue updated guidelines for firearms licence applications.
>Another one in 2018: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Moss_Side_shooting
No fatalities.
Mass shootings are rare in the UK, with the most recent previous being a spree shooting in Cumbria in 2010, and the one before a school shooting in Dunblane in 1996.
> And another in 2010: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings
12 dead.
Along with the 1987 Hungerford massacre and the 1996 Dunblane school massacre, it is one of the worst criminal acts involving firearms in British history.
>And in 2009: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massereene_Barracks_shooting
2 soldiers dead.
That's a total of 37 deaths to mass shootings in the UK in 26 years. Let's see where the US is at : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_...
202 mass shootings, 221 deaths in the first 4 months of 2022
What was your point again ?
The deadliest mass shooting of all time happened in France in 2015 and the second deadliest happened in Norway in 2011 (yes, deadlier than any American mass shooting). Europe has had a large number of mass killings. Here's a PARTIAL list (since there are no activist groups compiling lists of "mass" "shootings" in Europe like there are in the US, it's difficult to find them without scanning old news articles) of SCHOOL shootings in Europe over the last twenty years (and yes it is fair to compare the US to all of Europe due to population and size; European countries are equivalent to American states (which have varying degrees of gun control)): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31515008. Additionally, there have been a lot of European mass killings that weren't targeted at schools like the Manchester Arena Bombing, Charlie Hebdo, the aforementioned Bataclan and Oslo massacres, the Nice truck attack, the various vehicle ramming attacks in London and elsewhere in Europe, and more. Your gun bans haven't prevented crazies from killing massive amounts of innocents, neither with guns nor with other methods.
My original sentence :
> The UK for example changed gun laws after a mass school shooting 26 years ago. Not a single one since.
I don't know what to say if you didn't double check when I corrected you. Learn to read ? To argue honestly ?
BTW, TWENTY-ONE new mass shootings in the US since you wrote this desperately disingenuous reply. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_...