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India has 4 times the population of US and I've never heard or read about a school shooting or a mass shooting. There is way worse poverty, mental illness, lawlessness, corruption at every level in India. The only difference is easy access to guns. Not sure why it's so difficult for gun worshippers in US to understand this.

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What about statistics about rape, violence, thefts, invasions, random-beating-up?

If the victims of these crimes had guns(or threat of having a gun), what would the statistics look like?

The security guard with the gun at the school couldn't even stop the shooter in the recent shooting and got killed. Same with the security guard in the Buffalo shooting. Someone with multiple AR-15s is still going to murder your whole family.

"There is way worse poverty, mental illness, lawlessness, corruption at every level in India. The only difference is easy access to guns."

Sounds like we should keep the guns ??

Your comprehension skills are extra ordinary, keep the guns.

Why would you claim India is almost identical to the USA except for this one variable (which seems like a laughable simplification anyway), and not, say, El Salvador or Serbia? Seems like a classic case of searching for data that confirms your opinion.

Seems like you're incapable of comprehension and searching for something that I never said.

I'm not, you clearly claimed that access to guns was the only difference between USA and India.

> The only difference is easy access to guns.

You missed the other part, try reading.

No I didn't.

You're unwilling to explain why you chose India, and unable to accept the data from other countries that invalidates your simplistic "theory".

Well, at least now you understand how people can hold on to beliefs despite easily available data which contradicts them.

You clearly don't understand. Well, I hope you at least now understand how people can hold on to their biases that will make them not read and comprehend.

India:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

China, with knives:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/06/09/china/china-knife-attacks...

These things happen everywhere, aren’t necessarily reported in the same way.

One part of why they are so prevalent in America is how each event becomes such a cultural focus, half of what I’ve seen on social media has been people posting about this event. Perpetuating the idea by giving it such attention must be part of the cause that people go out and do these things.

What about first world nations like Australia, New Zealand? They too are not reported in the same way?

Australia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_crimes_in_...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10629425/amp/Everyo...

> Stabbings have never been worse or more brutal, police say, as Australian hospitals struggle to cope with an emerging 'knife culture' amongst young men.

There are certainly differences in rates, but these things happen everywhere.

If I tell you nuclear weapons should be eliminated from the world as they're dangerous and can wipe off cities, are you going to come back with statistics about how tanks kill people? Your arguments are exactly that.

Yet they aren't a cultural focus.

How many mass shootings have taken place in the US this year?

10? 20?

Try 213.

243 deaths, 922 injuries.

This month? 44 mass shootings. 61 deaths, 219 injured.

These things don't happen everywhere. They happen here because guns make them easy. People hate facts and so they pretend that everyone has the same problems.

That really depends on your definition of mass shooting, and you seem to be quoting a statistic which uses a very broad definition.

The kind of thing that happened in Texas has not happened 44 times this month.

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