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Comment by Larrikin | Hacker News Reader

I find it impossible to believe people actually think like this and aren't just aggressively defending something terrible because they are invested in the person's companies.

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Have you considered that some people believe most everyone is wrong, that they won’t be told what to do by others, that they are or should be in complete control their lives, that they live by their own rules, that The Man is keeping them down, etc? Musk personifies that belief system.

> they won’t be told what to do by others, that they are or should be in complete control their lives

"You have to work in the factory even though there's a deadly virus spreading around." - Musk to his employees

But hey, pandemic shamdemic right, since the Musk said so :)

You do realize that the "sexual harrasment" allegation is that Musk asked for a handjob from a massage therapist who was already massaging him as he lay naked... and she declined and that was the end of it... right?

> You do realize that the "sexual harrasment" allegation is that Musk asked for a handjob from a massage therapist who was already massaging him as he lay naked... and she declined and that was the end of it... right?

I am not sure why you put sexual harassment in quotes like that: having your boss, let alone the wealthiest man in the world, make unwanted sexual advances is basically a textbook case of sexual harassment.

> Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitutes sexual harassment when submission to or rejection of this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual's employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual's work performance or creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment. > > https://www.eeoc.gov/fact-sheet/facts-about-sexual-harassmen...

Plenty of people get massages and disrobe without sexually harassing their masseuse.

He then showed his erect penis to her.

And paid $250K of company money for her to keep quiet about it.

He said she said situation that could well be entirely fabricated. But it would take a million to bring it to trial and waste a few weeks of his life, and he has nothing to gain. Legalized extortion-if she had to jail if she lost, you'd see fewer of these

> He said she said situation that could well be entirely fabricated. But it would take a million to bring it to trial and waste a few weeks of his life, and he has nothing to gain. Legalized extortion-if she had to jail if she lost, you'd see fewer of these

And she wins Elon has to go to jail...?

I could reasonably see it being accidental. Boners can happen at quite bad times. I could also see the asking for a handjob being a badly done joke.

Still, for the courts to decide.

>badly done joke

"Badly done jokes" can still absolutely be straight up sexual harassment. You can't "it's just a prank bro" your way out of putting someone in that terrible position

Well, obviously. Hence, "for the courts to decide"

The facts are that there is an allegation without any proof right now. It only takes one person to make such an allegation. Tesla/Elon fanboyism side, I don't know how you are so sure of what really happened that you feel comfortable equating the defense of due legal process to supporting sexual harassment.

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