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Siri Co-Founder Quits Apple

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Fox News? Here's the original source: http://allthingsd.com/20111023/exclusive-siri-co-founder-kit...

I'm just curious. What's wrong with Fox News?

Fox News is for partisan people who are more interested in how terrible Obama is than actual News.

It's widely claimed (and IMO, correctly pointed out) that Fox News lacks journalistic integrity and is highly partisan, sometimes resorting to outright falsities to further an agenda.

Generally speaking, we prefer our news sources to be more objective, or if subjective, make their subjectivity more honest (i.e., by not painting it as an objective news program).

"It's widely claimed..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word#Passive_and_middle_...

He or she also stated their opinion: "and IMO, correctly pointed out". The statement that it is widely claimed was sort of the point of the comment.

This comment is a parody, right?

Fox News sensationalizes news for the sake of the story. This boosts ratings because it seems we are wired with a proclivity for stories, but when storytelling and ratings are your goals, something else has to give -- in this case, it's often objectivity.

Nothing wrong with this reporting.

True, but I always like to see a link to the original source if its obtainable.

Some people just don't like working for others, even if it's Apple. And that's amplified when you've got millions of dollars in the bank and have no need for a pay cheque to pay the bills.

Do you think Steve Jobs would have stuck with Apple after it acquired NeXT, if he wasn't CEO? I highly doubt he would, he would have moved on as soon as his contract ended.

But he didn't become CEO. He stayed on as a consultant. NeXT was acquired in 1996. Jobs became interim CEO a year later. He didn't become permanent CEO until 2000.

edit: I highly doubt he would, he would have moved on as soon as his contract ended. Reading this latter sentence, perhaps you didn't mean that he was CEO right away. But I'm not sure. :)

Yeah, I'm assuming he was in a contract which kept him around long enough for him to be made interim CEO. From there, I'm sure he was confident he'd secure the permanent role before long.

Or, one could argue that this is the length of time it took him to kick out Amelio and get himself back in the top spot.

If in a hypothetical world where Jobs couldn't get himself back into the CEO spot, then perhaps he would not have stayed on for an extended period of time.

Of course, this is all pure speculation

I would quit too. I love Apple products but they come at a huge human cost. One of my best friends works there and he's always extremely stressed out. He works like 15 hour days, 6 days a week. He's constantly bailing on his obligations because Apple decides to run a conference call at a ridiculous hour of the night, or right before we go into a theater to watch a movie. Nevermind the China trips that get dragged out for weeks. I've heard from him on several occasions that there are few people who have worked at Apple longer than a few years because of the burnout.

May depend on which role or which products. I had a friend who did tech support at Apple for 10+ years and loved it, and another friend who works as a web dev and loves it as well.

I don't think either of my friends were in roles that had to fear Apple's goon squad... imagine things are different if you work on something iPhone/iPad/iOS related.

I've heard that the hardware design guys have it pretty rough, while the software side has it (relatively) easy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soul_of_a_New_Machine

This is untrue. A family member worked on the Apple "software side", and it was insanely stressful (constant overtime, stay over weekends etc...). If the hardware guys have it worse, then it must be inhuman. I wonder what the turnover rate of Apple employees is.

Co-Founder: "Siri, should I quit Apple?"

Siri: Redirects user to his broker's web site showing his millions of dollars in AAPL shares...

This looks like Microsoft all over again. Wait for similar news every couple of months. Key-person attrition is gonna be thru the roof at Apple.

The CEO of a purchased company is often a redundant position.

Yeah. This doesn't seem like startling news.

A regular CEO is quite a bit different than a co-founder CEO.

This is almost exactly 18 months after the acquisition. Guy probably finished his earn out and is moving on. Nothing surprising for an acquired CEO.

I think Yahoo leads in botched acquisitions.

Your comment seems a bit trite and overly dismissive, which is why it has been downvoted into oblivion, but there is a possible grain of truth there to watch out for.

It has been rumored for a while that Scott Forstall, head of iOS, is extremely difficult to work with, and has been the reason for a number of people leaving Apple. I can't even begin to guess whether this is true or not -- I don't have any way of knowing. But this may actually be something to watch for over the next couple of years.

Well, even Google (with its great working environment) has issues keeping personnel from acquisitions.

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