> That's why I called it autonomy, not democracy.
That's why liquid democracy it's not democracy, but autarchy.
> It's pretty clear that you don't know what liquid democracy is if you think it's not personal.
It's pretty obvious that you don't know Italian and are trying to explain my Constitution to me... [1]
Liquid democracy supporters prove, once again, that they don't understand consensus.
[1] scholars of Constitutional law and jurisprudence established that "the vote is personal" should be read as
Il voto è personale nel senso che non può essere delegato salva soltanto la possibilità di valersi di un accompagnatore in caso di grave impedimento fisico. Non è ammesso il voto per procura.
I'll gladly translate for you
Vote is personal means that it *can't be delegated*
Proxy voting *is not admitted*
If you read something on proxy voting, you'll know why civilized countries don't admit it.
Here's a list of countries where proxy voting was used in the past
- Albania
- Algeria
- Canada
- China
- Gabon
- Guyana
- India
- Iraq
- Russia
- United Kingdom
- United States
- Vietnam
What's the problem with proxy voting?
As I've said before it disincentive people to actually exercise the right to vote.
For example:
According to Arch Puddington et al., in Albanian Muslim areas, many women have been effectively disenfranchised through proxy voting by male relatives.
In Algeria, restrictions on proxy voting were instituted circa 1991 in order to undermine the Islamic Salvation Front.
In Canada David Stewart and Keith Archer opine that proxy voting can result in *leadership selection processes to become leader-dominated*. Proxy voting had only been available to military personnel since World War II, but was extended in 1970 and 1977 to include voters in special circumstances such as northern camp operators, fishermen, and prospectors. The Alberta Liberal Party ran into some difficulties, in that an unknown number of proxy ballots that were counted may have been invalid
According to Mim Kelber, "in Central Africa, all it takes for a man to cast a proxy vote for his wife is to produce an unwitnessed letter mentioning the name of the person to whom the voting power is delegated." The Gabon respondent to an Inter-Parliamentary Union letter commented, "It has been observed that this possibility was exploited to a far greater extent by men than by women, for reasons not always noble."
Proxy voting was used in some American U.S. presidential nominating caucuses. In one case, Eugene McCarthy supporters were in the majority of those present but were outvoted when the presiding party official cast 492 proxy votes – three times the number present – for his own slate of delegates. After the nomination of Hubert Humphrey, the New Politics movement charged that Humphrey and party bosses had circumvented the will of Democratic Party members by manipulating the rules to Humphrey's advantage. In response, the Commission on Party Structure and Delegate Selection, also known as the McGovern-Fraser Commission, was created to rework the rules in time for the 1972 Democratic National Convention. State parties were required to ban proxy voting in order to have their delegates seated at the national convention. It was said that these rules had been used in *"highly selective" ways*.
Several attempts have been made to place proxy voting-related initiatives on the California ballot, but all have failed.
Please, stop pretending you actually understand the matter.
You don't.