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> Dutch public transport is the most expensive in Europe"

Yes. On the other hand, the comparison in frequency, punctuality and cleanliness between the cheap Italian regional trains and the average Dutch ones clearly favors, and by a large margin, The Netherlands. This might have an impact on the costs :)

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Don't think anyone disputes that. What they will say is how Tokyo still one-ups any major city in The Netherlands at a fraction of the price.

GP is still very much right that The Netherlands, while being better, isn't good enough yet for most people to get rid of cars.

>cleanliness

Eh.. they certainly aren't clean here.

The secret sauce is density and a dire need to get this right or congest that city beyond believe. But yes they do a good job.

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