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Yeah, didn't gorhill already say that uBlock Origin will never be ported to Manifest v3 due to how much he'd have to cripple it?

That means that very soon all Chrome (and Edge) users will no longer have uBlock Origin, and Firefox will be the only way to run it officially.

This could be a pretty decent value prop for Firefox (bigger than the random features Mozilla has been pushing recently IMO)... Although I'm sure the majority of less technical Chrome users will just switch to whatever gimped, Chrome-sanctioned declarativeNetRequest ad-blocking extensions spring up to fill the void.

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> That means that very soon all Chrome (and Edge) users will no longer have uBlock Origin, and Firefox will be the only way to run it officially.

This sounds like a pro in my mind. I made the switch to Firefox soon after MV3 was announced. I don't regret it. I'm hoping more people follow in my footsteps and hopefully Chromium doesn't have such a stranglehold on web standards.

The typical answer I get when I say this is "but Firefox is too slow". I don't experience the issue, but that's pretty much always what I get told. No idea.

Firefox generally runs worse on Google properties like Youtube and Google Meet. I had to switch to Chrome because the performance was so poor and my last job used Meet as our conference tool.

Indeed, Google owned sites run worse on Firefox. But not too worse. I watch YouTube channels everyday on Firefox without issues.

While my experience is not the same (i use gmail, meet and youtube daily on Firefox with no issues), there's an easy solution to that - use Chrome for meet when you need to and use Firefox for all of your other browsing?

I do that on mobile, I have a heavily locked-down Fennec F-Droid for random browsing but it's awful to use Google websites from it, so I keep Bromite around only for checking my old GMail / GDrive accounts (I've moved to other providers but they're useful backups). Doesn't make much sense to bother blocking Google Analytics and friends when I'm already using a Google website.

On desktop I don't have that problem, Librewolf works fine with Google websites for me, and I have a container set up for them.

At work we're on the MS stack so instead of Chrome I keep Edge as my other browser for Azure, Office, and Teams. I have to say, the vertical tab implementation from Edge is one of the best I've seen. Vivaldi's are fancier but they're not nearly as smooth, and Firefox's Tree-Style Tabs extension can't even compare.

You describe it as an easy solution, but the easier solution is to just use one browser. Only one history record (which I use) and one set of plugins to maintain.

I've switched back to Firefox now that I no longer work somewhere that uses Google products.

I think New Meet performs a lot better in FF now, but Old Meet (with the gray action bar) had awful performance when I used it. The performance wasn't great in Chrome either, but it wasn't show-stoppingly slow like it was in FF.

It used to be true. But now firefox and chrome are pretty comparable. Although YMMV depending on the specific site. And sometimes it isn't because a chrome is inherently faster, but because a site has been heavily optimized targeting chrome, because chrome has more market share.

It's still true. They probably render websites and run JS at comparable speeds, but everything in the UI is snappier with Chrome. It just feels like every interaction with Firefox has 50ms more delay than Chrome.

It won't be anymore once effective adblocking is kneecapped.

Many users will probably switch in June 2023, as Chrome will no longer run Manifest v2 by that time.

That will be the true test of Googles changes, if they don't come up with something else before then.

https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/

> Many users will probably switch in June 2023, as Chrome will no longer run Manifest v2 by that time.

That's January 2023 for most users. You can only run v2 past January using an enterprise policy.

This looks like great opportunity for malicious extensions as desperate users will be looking for reliable ad blockers for their Chrome

> didn't gorhill already say that uBlock Origin will never be ported to Manifest v3 due to how much he'd have to cripple it? I don't think that is up to date

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