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Via New York Post as per Project Veritas... need we continue?

Actually yes. Let us look at the evidence first before quickly dismissing the article because 'It's NY Post, therefore fake.' or 'right wing source = fake'.

One of the engineer's own profile(s) can found here: [0][1] after they deleted their Twitter, LinkedIn account(s), Siru is short for Sirushti. The YouTube video seems to be legitimate and real.

If it gets removed for some reason, it would further prove that it is undeniable evidence that a certain company would not want others to see on the platform - causing a Streisand effect to find it.

[0] https://ask.fm/professionals/sirushti-murugesan%27s-email/15...

[1] https://twitter.com/eikinkloster/status/1526451162638979072

Sorry, but no. Project Veritas doesn't just lack credibility, they have knowingly and intentionally been deceptive and malicious. They do not get the benefit of the doubt.

    The group produces deceptively edited videos of its undercover operations, which use secret recordings in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Project Veritas also uses entrapment to generate bad publicity for its targets, and has propagated disinformation and conspiracy theories in its videos and operations.

Have you disproven the claims and the validity of the video or even the leaked Twitter all hands video by them which that is still circulating around the internet and even the same media outlets are also in directly referencing it?

I have not seen a full refutation or disproving of those video(s) since their release and the claims made about Twitter being 'fake'.

Sorry, but yes. I have heard from the other side and I could not hear anything because they were either still silent, did not report it or referenced the matter with very careful wording. Maybe it is because it was true, since there was no denial or debunking around the leaked all hands, or even this video.

the problem is that the video does not prove the claims it makes to begin with..

it is just a bunch of random phrases out of context put in a way to convey the desired message from a source that lack any credibility..

so the video has no validity to begin with for us to disprove..

unless you have access to the source material and can give context to the stuff that was being discussed in those multiple conversations i see no reason we should trust or care about this video..

edit: fixing typos.

This commonly called the "Burden of Proof" fallacy.

That you may have to dig deeper to find facts supporting or attacking a position doesn't invalidate the assertion.

> it is just a bunch of random phrases out of context put in a way to convey the desired message from a source that lack any credibility..

Is that why Twitter hasn't responded to them? Hence no denial or refutation from them? Just like they did not respond to the leaked all hands video?

> so the video has no validity to begin with for us to disprove..

If that is so, why hasn't it been debunked yet? Why hasn't Project Veritas retracted it immediately then if they're wrong? Either way, if Twitter / YouTube removes it they have something to hide and if they don't respond with a refutation, it makes the claims more believable. It gets worse the more they hesitate.

> unless you have access to the source material and can give context to the stuff that was being discussed in those multiple conversations i see no reason we should trust or care about this video..

Perhaps you can ask them to post that video in full, since they were able to post the full leaked Twitter all hands video which lots of the same so-called 'trusted' media sources also cared to indirectly reference it as well in their own articles about the all hands meeting.

So unless you have a full debunking of both this video's confessions and also the leaked Twitter all hands video that these media sources was referencing, then we can only conclude that this video as it stands is legitimate and still remains un-refuted and still not debunked by anyone.

don't know what video you saw.. but the video linked here does not have any confessions, just a bunch of opinions from a nobody that we know nothing about that happen to work at twitter, edited by an organization without any credibility and know for using video to distort what people say.. everything laid out of context..

the video is total crap and not wort anyone to waste their time with..

so unless you have any reason on why people should give this video any credibility fill free to give to whoever comes looking for it..

i have already waste too much time on this crap, if you had anything to give this video credibility you would have provided already so i will assume there is nothing and move on..

Once again, cannot refute, unable to answer my questions and attempting to escape the discussion about the 'credibility' of both this video and the related Twitter all hands video.

> don't know what video you saw..

We both saw that video in the article of the engineer giving out their confession, unless you jumped directly into the comments section without watching the video and it is from that same organization that leaked the Twitter all hands video which Techcrunch and Business Insider references them directly by name [0][1], and with others ending up having to retract hundreds of claims about them [2].

But nice try at deflecting and gaslighting. Maybe that leaked all hands video was also 'edited' as well? I think we both know that the all hands leak is authentic.

> the video is total crap and not wort anyone to waste their time with..

That is not a refutation of the video(s), links and posts in my older comment. Nothing has changed, with my points still standing and with the video(s) still not being debunked, and still not refuted.

> i have already waste too much time on this crap, if you had anything to give this video credibility you would have provided already so i will assume there is nothing and move on..

Even before you commented, I already did provide sources and you have now just found out that you have wasted your time struggling to dismiss and ignore something that already has been admitted on video and still has no direct refutation or a straight debunking. At best, you have only given ad-hominems and resorted to typical gaslighting.

And finally we have a 'response' from Twitter via a leaked internal email also mentioning Project Veritas by name [3][4] and being aware of the videos of the engineer that works at Twitter. So there you have it, confirming all that I said about the video, whilst you still having absolutely ZERO refutations or counter-claims to prove that it is false.

[0] https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/27/twitter-leaked-all-hands-c...

[1] https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/twitter-staff-and-m...

[2] https://www.projectveritas.com/wall-of-shame-retracto/

[3] https://twitter.com/SethDillon/status/1526647553558581248/ph...

[4] https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1526638323887898624/...

Yes no bias in Wikipedia either lol.

It's fairly widely concluded amongst free-thinking peoples that Veritas is not operating in good faith. They are a highly calculating group with a goal of changing public opinion through selectively interpretations. If you don't want to believe that, it's fine, but let's be frank here: it's fairly easy to understand who and what veritas is from the talks given by its founder.

Skills: Algorithms

So he must have seen (if not written) the "source code" everyone is talking about these days - why didnt he out the brain manipulation population control algorithm as the deep state left wing project that people claim it is ...

Oh thats right, it isnt. Or maybe he is a nobody (lol Senior Engineer - that is basically an intern right?)

I'm not sure I understand?

neither is a particularly good source for actionable intelligence.

Do you not believe the video evidence or do you just dismiss it because CNN or Fox didn't give it their stamp of approval to qualify it as "news"?

I do believe that's a video from a twitter engineer.

What I don't do is conclude anything about what actually happens inside twitter based on that video. It's not evidence of anything, it's a person saying a thing, which may correlate with the actual truth, but when it's presented by groups that have well-known biases, it's easier to see it as propaganda, not "news".

There you go. You even have some news sites that also covered the leak of the Twitter all hands video that directly cited PV. I'm sure there was no (and still no) denials around the credibility around that one.

This one now has an engineer directly admitting the internal Twitter feud and chaos about Elon on video and in turn, deleted his accounts while an internal Twitter email was sent around mentioning PV by name again.

So far ZERO refutation(s) or debunking from anyone about those videos and 1 so called 'response' from Twitter being aware of the leaks.

Therefore it has been admitted.

You mean like the Hunter laptop story what was later determined to be true … even by the “paper of record” New York Times?

I didn't say they never publish things which are true.

Did you watch the video?

Of course they were motivated, that's undeniable, but the video is the evidence.

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