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I guess it probably depends upon ones consumption but this strategy seems outdated because nowadays private trackers/groups eg discords seem to make up a much larger share of piracy etc but I guess that’s more hurting all of the people lower on the hierarchy of content creation than the big record labels.

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It will be effective for the pirates who would give up and make a purchase before spending a solid 20 minutes searching for a piracy site. Counter-piracy measures only make sense when they are less expensive than the lost revenue, so their goal is not necessarily to eliminate all piracy.

I'd guess there are Pareto-like distributions where 4/5 of the infringers are low effort and not part of any invite-only communities.

Beside that, the language used is "online location," a pairing of words so vague and incompatible that it's hard to argue it should be limited to web servers and not discord channels.

> I guess it probably depends upon ones consumption but this strategy seems outdated because nowadays private trackers/groups eg discords seem to make up a much larger share of piracy etc but I guess that’s more hurting all of the people lower on the hierarchy of content creation than the big record labels.

I think a better way when it comes to big record labels is to refuse to listen to or watch their stuff even if you can get it free of cost. Don't give them your time at all.

Because being on a big label suddenly makes the art bad? If I like a song I need to do research and trace it's origin? I don't understand how this is a viable idea nor how it helps

it doesnt make the art intrinsicly bad, but is a yellow brick road to it. almost every body likes fame or fortune, but this leads to demands, to generate product according to the employers specifications, AKA "commercialization"

Music isn’t a limited commodity, you can boycott effectively unlimited artists without significant cost.

Culture is about shared experience, anything that cuts you off from sharing in popular culture has a cost. You might not care, but I think - particularly for children/teens - there is significant cost.

Interested in your thoughts on that?

Music has largely stopped being a shared experience, that’s hard to demonstrate but the same thing happened to TV. Who shot JR on Dallas was the kind of thing people talked about and the resolution episode got 53.3% ratings share in 1980, that was only topped by final Episode of M.A.S.H which hit 60.2%.

Only 2 shows in the last 25 years even approached it. Seinfeld Finale - "The Finale" hit 41.3% 24 years ago and Friends hit 35.6% 18 years ago.

In 2020 by comparison the Super Bowl was 4x as popular as the most watched single TV episode and streaming was dominated by people watching reruns not new shows. Average viewership of actual TV shows is unsurprisingly much lower.

PS: Best selling albums of 2020 included #12 Abbey Road by The Beatles, and #6 was the Frozen II soundtrack.

An injunction like this might be enough of a threat to make Discord et al start self-enforcing. Kind of like how the DMCA (arguably) led to YouTube implementing ContentID.

Speaking of, I'm asking here because I don't know where to find out anymore otherwise: anyone know where I can find the retro gaming torrent community these days? All my sets are just sitting here not being updated or seeded to anyone and it is making me sad.

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