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I think you should have cooled off for a bit before posting this emotion-laden comment. I would suggest that the people you should be angry with are the ones behind the singular corporate uniparty which pits us against each other by creating false narratives and rhetoric that spread through our media ecosystem.

> I'm kinda done with listening to the other side at this point.

Don't let the propaganda win, always be willing to listen.

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>I would suggest that the people you should be angry with are the ones behind the singular corporate uniparty which pits us against each other by creating false narratives and rhetoric that spread through our media ecosystem.

Thats a two way street buddy. I can't listen to the other side if they are blabbering on about their own false narrative. This comment section is full of people who think that its the lefts fault and are absolutely incapable of looking at their own party. I don't know how to explain to you that I do not give a shit about Democrats or Liberal media or the "singular corporate uniparty", let it all burn and I will still be fighting for LGBT rights and there will still be people who think I shouldn't exist.

There will always be people who think you shouldn't exist, that is true. But parent comment is suggesting that if you let it all burn down those people would likely turn out to be only a small minority, easily dismissed, rather than a unified bloc of 50% of brainwashed america.

I don't think the GOP is a unified bloc. I think it is beholden to a vocal minority without whom they wouldnt win elections because running on their last 20 years of policy alone hasnt worked. If we destroyed the current political parties and had everyone in government rerun as independents, that vocal minority would still find a political foothold.

Perhaps! Depends on how you set up the system, I think.

I'm in agreement here. How are people supposed to reach across the aisle and fight our common enemy when the other side of the aisle is completely unwilling to make this sort of introspective conclusion?

The question is whether it's true that the other side of the aisle is unwilling to make introspective conclusions, or if they actually are but you've been affected by the misperceptions and miscalibrations the source article describes. For example, Social Security privatization has entirely dropped off the radar in recent years - what happened there if not an introspective conclusion that it was a bad idea?

Trump said it was a stupid idea (and he was right).

Similarly, I also do not give a shit about the GOP. Or any party for that matter. They can come to me if they want my vote.

Where we differ I guess is in degree of nihilism - I don't want to see everything burn and I'm happy to listen to other people's perspectives. I'm just a mildy intelligent ape and don't have everything figured out yet. I don't think throwing in the towel is a better solution than persevering and standing up for your values though. Thank you for listening! :)

I think they make a lot of good points, and the post doesn't sound too emotionally charged to me.

Frankly, the left should start to go lower, and speak more emotionally. It turns out that clinical, sterile statements are not a good way to sway a majority, and they don't make good sound-bites.

At some point, you have to fight fire with fire to avoid becoming yet another victim of the paradox of tolerance.

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