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The YouTube subscription just seems excessively expensive. I find it hard to fathom they would generate anywhere near as much revenue from me watching their ads compared to the subscription cost.

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So I agree for just YouTube it would be excessive. But they do combo it with youtube music which makes it a slightly better deal. Also personally they have the best family plan since it allows 6 accounts total and doesn't require to be "Under the same roof" like spotify. But I agree I probably wouldn't find the full price outside of the family plan worth it.

Last time I tried YouTube music, it was an underwhelming experience. I expected it to show only official videos, but it showed any random video with music. It substituted Google Play Music, where you could have a curated library and your own uploads, with random music videos.

I think it only show "any random video with music" if you've liked the video and it appears to be a legitimate music video (i.e. without dialog/non-musical noises etc.). I use YtM a lot and the only questionable videos are ones that I've hit like on (beat saber being a prime example - I've learned not to like anything like that, these days).

I can't say that I have experienced the random music videos thing, but I agree it does feel like a bit of a downgrade from Google Play Music. I used the podcast part of Google Play Music a lot, since it put music and podcasts all in the same spot. Now I have had to switch to pocketcasts for that instead.

I found a youtube premium-lite option.

It removes adds, but does not allow background play and a few other perks. But it only costs 6 euros.

I found it a better deal than premium so I downgraded.

This would be great, exactly what I need. But they don't seem to offer it everywhere. I get the message "This offer is not available" when I go to https://www.youtube.com/premiumlite

Looks like YouTube Premium Lite is only available in Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/2/22605455/youtube-premium-l...

I honestly would prefer a premium-lite. I don't use YT as an audio source so background tab audio is annoying (even more on mobile - stopping my phone doesn't stop the video). Really want premium-lite for family sub :D

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