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> stuck in the late 2000s

jQuery is still the dominant paradigm. It's used on like 80% of websites. Wordpress is also still very widely used

Isn’t jQuery mostly dominant in stats because it’s included in WordPress by default (definitely in 90% of Wordpress themes). It’s been a while since I checked so this could be out of date.

Until very recently it was also a dependency of Bootstrap. That’s why it’s in my project (can’t upgrade yet).

When using classic Angular (some time ago) with Bootstrap I ended up rewriting the JS parts of any bit of Bootstrap we used as Angular components for ease of debugging (I know lots of people hated Angular but it was still easier to only debug one framework-ish thing at once).

The existence today of e.g. react-bootstrap suggests that I'm not the only one to have had this idea.

>I know lots of people hated Angular

Why would they hate on angular? Isn't just another framework

Yes, it's in core. And was only upgraded from a very outdated version fairly recently ( in terms of its lifetime) - https://make.wordpress.org/core/2020/06/29/updating-jquery-v...

I bet bootstrap has something to do with it too.

Many of the bigger libraries like bootstrap but also individual, rich plugins and widgets have moved to a JS native implementation, which is slightly more verbose but clearer, well supported and has no bundle size / dependency overhead.

If I want/need "something more than native" today then I first ask myself again whether I _really_ need it and then maybe I will look for focused/small libraries and polyfills.

Right, but not for new projects.

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