Why isn't there any HiDPI resolution on my M1 Mac?
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The same monitor is absolutely fine on a 2019 Macbook Pro.
If you use BetterDummy, it creates a ‘fake’ display to mirror to. The result is beautifully clear display on the 5K2K.
This is the crux of the issue. M1 macs can absolutely do nice 1.25 scaling on a 5120*2160 display to give crisp text in the 140dpi range but they disable it.
That is the issue IMHO.
This might just be them overtightening in response to that problem of old (whilst continuing to deny its existence, of course heh).
Edit: Plugging in an external monitor (not all of them, seems random) will cause the laptop's GPU to instantly 4x its powerdraw to about 20 watts, which then lasts for the duration of that connection.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2019-16-is-hot-noisy-wi...
I.e, a monitor with a resolution of 5120x2160.
The correct title is Why isn't there any HiDPI resolution on my M1 Mac ?
Submitted title was "Apple Intentionally Disabled HiDPI on M1 Macs, No Support for non-4K Monitors". Submitters: please don't editorialize titles like that. If you want to say what you think is important about an article, that's fine, but do it in a comment in the thread. Then your view is on a level playing field with everyone else's (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...).
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Edit: Since this has been a problem in other cases (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31126605 was bad enough to post about, and there have been others), I'm removing submission privileges from this account until we get some reason to believe that it won't keep recurring.
This is not good evidence. It may be able to nominally handle it, but can’t handle it under other conditions that are important to Apple. Display HW is all about bandwidth management, and scaling etc may consume not-budgeted bandwidth.
It's free and open source with an optional Pro version. I've been using it longer than the Pro version has been around, so I'm not familiar with what advantages it may have over the free version.
(I mean at a distant-enough remove, sure, everything any company does is for profit. But seeing a locked door and assuming it must be to support a ticket vendor ignores a universe of other explanations.)
The article is likely a marketing effort, the website where the article is published sells software for switching resolution. I wouldn't read too much into it.
[no private knowledge of the issue, opinion is my own only]
I can imagine people being a bit irritated about this.
I don’t mind if it requires “advanced” settings modes or terminal commands or whatever, but I should be able to configure a device I own to output any combination of resolution and display scaling that it’s capable of (and is supported by the connected display), regardless of what’s plugged in or whether someone at Apple can see a good reason to want to do so.
To me the options either result to too big UI, or jaggy text with regular sized UI.
I'm currently using 2x 27 inch 4k displays in scaled mode (the second setting from the left) on an M1 mac and it looks great. Fonts look fine to me.
It’s not 2X integer scaling but I don’t notice at all.
Could you explain? We have three different 4K 27" screens around the house and for me the five options between Larger text and More space in Display Preferences are completely fine? I pick the size I want and the fonts are completely crisp? If you want to select resolutions, you can hold the Option key and click the Scaled radio button and you can select concrete resolutions.
May experience with Linux has been the opposite. Integer scaling works well (assuming that the toolkit of an application supports it), but once you use fractional scaling (even on GNOME on Wayland), a lot of CPU cycles are burnt for rendering, and many non-GNOME applications will be rendered at a lower DPI and scaled up and everything is blurry. I had a ThinkPad with a 1080p 14" screen and an external 4k 27" screen. Both were practically unusable. With the native resolution everything is too small, with 2x scaling everything is too big, and with 1.5-1.75 scaling, many applications are blurry. I ended up using the native resolution and scaling up the font size. At least text was not too small or to big, but a lot of widgets were tiny and barely usable.
In Windows the options themselves are fine, but there are too many legacy apps that do not support scaling and just look blurry :(. And with plugging/unplugging of an external screen, Windows was often not able to put windows back in the right places.
HiDPI scaling was one of the long list of issues that made be go back to macOS after using a ThinkPad with Windows and Linux for 7 months a year ago.
On my M1 Mac though, I need to pay $50 for eqMac2 so that I get to control the external display's speakers. Then I'll need to pay for Switchresx or Better Dummy just to get the resolution right on my non-4K display. And if money is not an issue, the security of these apps is definitely concerning. It all feels "hacky" to install app after app just to get the standard functionalities on macOS.
The fact that Apple removed HiDPI for non-4K displays just shows how non-free the whole ecosystem is. Definitely one more reason to wait for Asahi Linux on M1 Mac.
Like I said, all my 4K 27” screens show crispy text on macOS.
This probably means it was trying to do subpixel rendering, but under incorrect assumptions about what the subpixel layout was. Problems of this type have recently become pretty pervasive.
"you can manually set the resolution to make text and objects appear larger on your screen," -Apple Support
There are different issues people have with their eyes so please abstain on defending Apple and telling people that are doing it wrong, in my case I have to use a combination of big fonts, Zoom and Text to speech (I won't waste my money on a 2k or 4k screen for my bad eyes but if somehow one would land on my desk I would for sure change the resolution )
Can you explain exactly why you think so relative to accessibility and not on implementation details.
Ofc... we could also start using an established technical term for something completely different. Looking at you USB 3.X O_O
I use both methods int he past and it really depends on OS features and the apps you have to use but let me know your expert opinon.
Ps: You can save your passive aggressive undertone for reddit.
[0] https://www.apple.com/accessibility/vision/ [1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows