EBUG: The NHL's emergency backup goalie rule
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16716279 NHL stunner: A 36-year-old accountant who has never played pro stars in Blackhawks win 2018, 85 comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB60iaSUIu0
Best Quote: "I'm an accountant by day. So a few hours ago I was sitting at a computer typing on a 10 key. Now I'm standing before you guys after playing 14 minutes of NHL hockey".
I'll never forget the shock of sitting down to catch sports highlights only to see this interview on TV. I went to high school with Scott Foster so it was a crazy shock.
> you just keep grinding away in men's league and eventually you'll get your shot
! I can't imagine having something like that happen and having the composure to give an interview like that in the same night.
Granted it was a low level professional team, and he was called up by a previous coach he had played for, but certainly was worth a couple chuckles.
However, I am acquainted with some individuals that are members of my favorite team's organization. My favorite team apparently has a roster of about 20 people that are "on call" for and given home game. Whether home or away, both teams in any given game can pull from the same roster i.e. the home team keeps the roster for both teams EBUG do not travel with the team or anything. Most of these people are ex-NCAA players or semi-professional players that have had far more success than your average beer leaguer.
I am in New Zealand and know nothing about ice hockey, but wouldn't it be risky to accept your opponents recommendation? Wouldn't a fan of their own team be a better bet, even if a worse player?
I don't think many people with a once in a lifetime chance to play in a real NHL game are going to take a dive just so the home team wins.
I doubt traveling expense is the limiter, how many years of that would it take to reach even the NHL minimum salary?
Teams would try to game the system if they were given more choice, and it'd lead to more decent goalies riding the bench rather than playing in smaller leagues.
A reserved fan ebug is a no go for reasons you stated and others.
An extra roster spot might work, but that's potentially someone playing not very much hockey. OTOH, we already have that scenario since it's a 23 person roster.
The thing is, this latest ebug appearance was kind of an important game. Goalies seem to get hurt more often now (someone just got hurt tonight), and as good as these stories are, you probably don't want to see an ebug when it matters.
Maybe just add the roster spot after the trade deadline or something
And I do think keeping talent playing rather than coaching is one of the primary reasons they don't change the rule. With my rule change, if you're a 24 year old ECHL goalie how much money would it take to accept an EBUG "trainer" job? How would the cap deal with that could also be an issue.
1. This very rarely comes up at all.
2. These guys aren’t usually that good (by NHL standards) and you’ve probably lost the game anyway. You’re relying on your defense to keep the puck away from them more than you’re relying on them to excel.
3. (Probably most important to your point). This is one of the best days in this guy’s life. He’s In an NHL game and will be in the highlight reels. Playing well and stopping his team’s power forward from scoring is a massive high that does way more than his preferred team winning or losing.
Interestingly, EBUGs have a pretty good record -- teams using an EBUG have won 3 of 4 games they've been used in. I think #3 factors into it: the players know that a "normal" (to be clear: while EBUGs aren't NHL caliber, they're not scrubs or beer leaguers, either) guy has gotten the night of a lifetime, and they'll (based on a subjective eye test) play more tightly in their own end.
This is mostly coincidental: the goalies only appeared in the dying minutes or seconds of games their teams were already leading.
is contradicted by the stories in this thread
To further this point, the person in this article is nearly blind in one eye.
And on three, I agree. But the rule also applies to playoffs and it's interesting to imagine how you would play with your favorite team's Stanley Cup dreams riding on it. More so when you add in how the city would react to your actions.
> To further this point, the person in this article is nearly blind in one eye.
You mentioned that he's nearly blind in one eye in response to someone saying that EBUGs aren't usually that good. And yet, he stopped 2 of the 3 shots on him securing the game win. So perhaps, he is actually that good.
>which wound up being the game winner to help secure a 4–2 win for Dallas
Hodges was playing for Anaheim. Plus, stopping 2/3rds of your shots is pretty terrible.
Linking Scott Foster's page would have made more sense, he stopped all 7 shots, but even he would probably agree he isn't that great.
Waiting in the locker room is key though, you can only break the 20 players dressed rule if both goalies are injured.
(And psychologically for the fan/local, they probably want to give it their all in their moment in the limelight? Why throw your one night in the NHL just because the wrong team got so unlikely injured?)
It's a relatively rare occurrence, and I imagine that anybody who ends up playing as an emergency backup would make an honest effort out of sportsmanship, and also because it's an unique opportunity and experience, even if it's for the visiting team.
The emergency backup goalie is essentially the ultimate underdog and ends up being the fan favourite for the game. Sometimes the home crowd has started to cheer for him even though he was playing for the visiting team.
I don't know what would be going through the emergency goalie's head if they had to step in for a really high-stakes game, though. I don't think that has happened so far.
I always thought that EBUG is an excellent PR device. It just feels to be so much "For the love of the game", something that fans on each side can relate.
Win or lose is situative, but the EBUG effect after such games is always humanising. So the lucky activated EBUGs are in the goal to simply play hockey, they are ultimately NHL ambassadors.
Some people would probably say it's too random, has no place in serious top-level sports, or something. But to me it creates awesomely human moments, not to mention that the entire idea of having someone ready to step in for either team in an emergency just screams good sportsman spirit.
They are generally goaltending coaches themselves at higher levels of amateur hockey, and/or they play in a very competitive adult league for some part of the calendar year.
Yes, the "on call" person is actually there, and if for some reason the team knows in advance that the EBUG cannot attend for whatever reason, THEN they go down the list for the next available "on call" EBUG. All of which happens before the game starts.
My team has had the same main EBUG for years, and he even runs his own Youtube channel if it piques your interest.
Here's the incident as it happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0JTRm-wf2E&ab_channel=Slick...
The EBUG was the zamboni driver for the home team junior team. And also a practice goalie. He comes out in helmet, pads and breezers (pants) of the home team, and even skates to the wrong goal because...wrong team. And plays half the game.
Then Steve Dangle melts down. He's on Sportsnet in Canada. He's a die hard Leafs (home team) fan. He's even written a book about how the Leafs have ruined his life. His video is epic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFnQ0dcaBUI&ab_channel=Steve...
I don't have time to look for it but David Ayers's wife (the EBUG) was on twitter and live tweeting the experience. It was nuts.
Here's a 1 year later retrospective on Sportsnet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsjBr6rKEuU&ab_channel=SPORT...
It was an epic night for hockey.
They're on a one-day contract, don't normally dress (get into gear), and usually just sit back and watch the game while eating a hot dog. It's typically a local rec league goalie/coach/staff member.
> If, through misadventure or sickness, the Referees and Linesmen appointed are prevented from appearing, the League will make every attempt to find suitable replacement officials, otherwise, the Managers or Coaches of the two Clubs shall agree on Referee(s) and Linesman(men). If they are unable to agree, they shall appoint a player from each side who shall act as Referee and Linesman; the player of the home Club acting as Referee and the player of the visiting Club as Linesman.
By all accounts the chosen players called a fair game.
I had never heard of Dave Grohl before watching that video, and had never knowingly listened to Foo Fighters music. I had heard of them, and probably heard some of their songs in passing without knowing it, and that's all.
Nevertheless Google apparently decided I was obsessed with Dave Grohl and for the next couple of months my Google News feed has several Dave Grohl stories per day. Very few of them had anything to do with music. They were almost always trashy celebrity gossip such as who Grohl was seen with or when he was drunk and that kind of thing.
(And no, I don't normally follow any celebrity gossip--I only see celebrity gossip when a celebrity does something outrageous enough to make the national news, so this wasn't simply Google seeing that I liked gossip and adding Grohl to the mix).
I wasn't clicking those stores, and after a couple weeks I started clicking the "fewer stories like this" option, but they still kept almost completely filling up the "For You" part of my Google News feed.
I've never had that happen before or since with any other random link I've followed to a video. Just with Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters.
not really sure what this means in practice. should i always provide a disclaimer that Google ads will follow you for the next 6 months with every youtube link i post?
i install uBlock Origin for everyone i know with a computer, and additionally uMatrix for myself, so have no idea what kind of landfill everyone else has to surf through.
sorry, i guess?
One was a recently-retired NZ player but the other was playing in his only International game.
If Foster won as EBUG in 2018, how can Ayres have had the first-ever EBUG win in 2020?
The implication with Foster seems to be that he came in after this winning goal was scored. Ayres, on the other hand, must have had the winning goal scored while he was on the ice.
If you stop 94 out of 100, you’re one of the best of all time.
So yeah, even if you can only stop 75 out of 100, that might get you through a period or two as the emergency backup.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1990-09-12-90021306...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/derrick-brodus-tennessee-foot...