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California’s population shrinks for second year in a row

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It feels like the people leaving aren't the people we want in California for the most part? Or is that just me?

Since you're on Hacker News, I have to assume the "we" is "successful tech people".

So who's the "the people leaving"? Blue collar workers? Poor people? Anyone who wants a house and isn't a millionaire? Conservatives? Personally, I'd imagine that it's all of the above. (Full disclosure, I left 10 years ago and did fit one of those categories.)

Thanks for leaving, we need the water ... and, im not whom youre replying to, but people leave because they want something else and its worth it to them. More power to 'em, and yourself. edit cuz i got downvoted for speaking truth. thanks for leaving

I’m sure the homeless people smashing windows are staying put

not for long ... you gotta squat for years to make it worth it. people keep talking like there is a bunch of empty rich people houses around in cali. I can assure you its just us assholes trying to get by like everywhere else.

Remote work means people can maximize their wages else where.

A lot of people also don't know what it's like to live / grow up in a small town. I suspect once they meet middle American culture they'll be coming right back to California.

Also, I don't know how I'd be able to hack living in Los Angeles in my 20's in the current era. Right now I'm a mid-career engineer making mid career wages. I don't live big, but I'm looking at other countries to buy property in -- simply because I can't afford anything out here.

California needs to build a heroic amount of housing as quickly as possible.

Which will never happen, just the other day I read an article about record low housing development is happening right now in the Bay Area

No, Cali needs to realize unlimited resources first. My local reservoir is below summer level before summer is even here. Why we need to encourage more people to to turn this into a desert?

Lots of people only lived in big cities for employment and many of us are enjoying leaving the noise, pollution, crime, and yes, needles and feces encrusting the sidewalks behind. Sure I’ll miss the hustle and bustle of the city, my brick wall efficiency in a converted warehouse, and the fact that there are 11 Starbucks shops within a 2 block radius. But it’s worth the trade off even if I have a dramatically smaller selection of craft IPAs to choose from.

Alas, the rural place I'm from has all those problems, but is also far away from anything.

The farther you go to escape human generated problems, the farther you are from human generated resources

There are tons of other cities that are much cheaper than cali cities, a lot of people are moving to places like phoenix and Dallas, which have everything cali cities have except maybe nice weather and nature

Commonly called "commufornia" here in the Midwest by those who have left.

Yup, We Call it Moving to the medieval Midwest.

Which is ironic given the excrement situation in "enlightened" California

A little ironic as until relatively recently American Midwestern political culture was the most strongly civic and, arguably, communitarian, in the United States. But coastal liberal culture has come to dominate the political left, southern conservative culture the political right, and the factionalization of the Midwest along those political contours has been well underway for at least a couple of decades, now. :(

Yep, the place that built 5 out of 8 of the top market cap companies in the US (Apple, Google, Tesla, Nvidia, Facebook) sure is "commy".

I agree. A communist system would also be far more equal in regards to public education. California punished the poor children and rewarded the rich children able to supplement with tutors or switch to private education during the pandemic. The governor's children even go to private school! California does not even require school bus service.

Florida, on the other hand, has had far more equal access to in-person education the past two years.

Did you live under communist rule to know they were far more equal?

thanks Reagan

That's not accurate at all. Communists would be able to build high speed rail much faster.

Not surprised that people who left California for possibly political reasons and settled in the Midwest might say that. Sure, whatever.

Please stay in California

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