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I'm east coast for life, and the West Coast confuses me. If you do move to one of the lovely cities in Dixie, please don't vote or push for cultural changes until you're integrated.

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This idea that people voted for what the West Coast became makes no sense. There were always many issues in flux and various camps involved. Ronald Reagan lay the foundation for what is there today. And many of the disgusting wash outs that accumulate in the gutters fled from conservative parts of the South and Midwest when the mills and small manufacturing got outsourced. Take some responsibility for your refugees mister careful with cultural changes integration master.

Or do vote how you want. Your culture is as valid as the inhabitants. Act like Americans do and drive out the locals. Be the pilgrims.

Would you make this same argument for Americans moving en masse to a small country with a rich heritage, and promptly trying to erase it? It happened in the past, doesn't make it right.

My comment was a bit tongue in check, where no people shouldn’t act like Americans did. BUT you shouldn’t have to integrate with “Dixie” culture, and bringing your culture with you (and exercising your right to vote) is not wrong. Americans didn’t just “bring their culture”, of course, they slaughtered locals and enslaved them and destroyed their lives. Voting against gun violence or against Christian-centric moral laws is NOT doing the same thing to “Dixie” as American colonists did to the earlier inhabitants, and is -i would say- still respectful.

> bringing your culture with you [...] is not wrong.

Is if it sucks, and has demonstrably ruined other cities.

Demonstrably, American south was already pretty ruined by that metric. Lots of people don’t feel safe being in most of those places alone, lots of them feel their voice isnt heard or respected, and there’s rampant discrimination.

But seriously, “demonstrably ruined” is a very one note take and not really useful. People deserve to have their culture respected and it’s totally fine to take it with you. That’s the whole point of American individualism. It wasn’t supposed to be about guns and group think it was supposed to be self determination and the freedom to make your own path. People come to America for freedom, not because they want to conform. When’d we lose that?

> Lots of people don’t feel safe being in most of those places alone, lots of them feel their voice isnt heard or respected, and there’s rampant discrimination.

That sounds like most cities.

Go ahead and demonstrate it.

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