Head down south. Knoxville is lovely, Nashville is booming. Atlanta is... Atlanta.
* Great Smoky Mountains National Park nearby
* Municipal internet being worked on in Knoxville, already running in Chattanooga
* University of Tennessee
* Oak Ridge National Lab - 2nd fastest supercomputer
* Elixir, Golang, Rust, Clojure if you know where to look
https://www.kub.org/about/about-kub/kub-service-areas/centur...
I personally wish people wouldn't say stuff like this. The reason urban places are terrible is because of the people and attitudes there. As soon as they move somewhere else, they're just going to ruin that place with regressive policies and idealistic goals too.
Edit: By keeping busibodies who can't mind their own business out of the area, I will be adding value. I'll still take the Tesla on road trips, don't worry.
> I do know people who moved to the area from California, but they fit in wonderfully
ie, white?
This is completely ideological, not racial. If you want to correlate those two, that's on you.
Is if it sucks, and has demonstrably ruined other cities.
But seriously, “demonstrably ruined” is a very one note take and not really useful. People deserve to have their culture respected and it’s totally fine to take it with you. That’s the whole point of American individualism. It wasn’t supposed to be about guns and group think it was supposed to be self determination and the freedom to make your own path. People come to America for freedom, not because they want to conform. When’d we lose that?
That sounds like most cities.
Homeless pissing on the sidewalk in broad daylight, hassling people as you walk out of buildings, etc.
I wish people that moved to places like Nashville and Austin would rethink who and what they vote for.
What are progressive policies?
What anti-gun/anti-personal-protection laws are you referring to?
Try getting a gun legally in NYC. It's next to impossible. I can carry in downtown Nashville, no problem. You'd be a lot less likely to carjack someone if you thought they might have a gun, right?
Even the cities in the list above where it is easy to get a weapon are showing drastic increases.
I mean, I get it. SF's bad policies certainly encourage ne'er-do-wells. But if the other side of the spectrum is "run homeless people out of town and make them some other cities' problem" then color me unimpressed.
As another user mentioned: cash free bail, decriminalizing drugs, those things have little to do with homelessness but do wreck the safety of a city.
Yes cities have homelessness, Nashville always had some, but it wasn't that bad, it's gotten much worse.
But from my perspective, the main problem is these people are now tweaked out in broad daylight, or shooting up, needles everywhere in the park.
These progressive policies incentivize people to act like this, which churns out more people on the street.
Focusing on jobs, mental illness, and rehab programs would be the best thing you could do for homelessness, not encouraging the behavior and building shanty towns.
> As another user mentioned: cash free bail, decriminalizing drugs, those things have little to do with homelessness but do wreck the safety of a city.
It's worth pointing out that even in Western cities plagued by homelessness that crime rates are still pretty low. The crime per capita in Seattle or Portland is still only half that of Nashville. So I don't necessarily see a strong link between being tough on drugs/crime and managing homelessness. I still feel pretty safe in Seattle, but that doesn't change the downtown sucks now.
There's clearly an intersection here between zoning policy, availability of services, and leniency towards crime.
I want to see a source. The 80th time you see drug addicts with their genitalia hanging out, do you call the cops or do you ignore it?
If you meant you'd call the cops because you were worried about them, not to punish them, that's a bit more reasonable. Then, it's just that it's unfortunate that the cops are the only service that you can feasibly call when you're worried about someone in that way considering how their response would often be inappropriate.
You ignore the no cash bail, drug decriminalization, and lax policing policies which don't just increase problems from the homeless, but others as well. Progressive policies incentivize criminal behavior, period.
Most homeless people have mental illness or drug problems. They don't need cheaper housing or to be ignored and stepped over, they need mental illness programs and rehab programs.
End no cash bail, end decriminalization (making it legal is fine), enforce public decency (no needles in the park, no shitting/pissing in the streets, no flashing people).
These things weren't problems in Nashville before progressive policies and relaxed enforcement.
Homelessness existed before then, it's not caused by homelessness, it's caused by leftists.
Be an adult and enforce the existing rules or we can't live in a society.
Yes I've heard the talk points that Joe Rogan has said. But where is the evidence that these policies have led to these issues? Places like Texas have a high homeless population too, and many southern states have huge drug problems.
It's a well known effect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory
Continue to vote for policies that make your city a hell hole.
I don't really care anymore, I don't live there.
> It has also been argued that rates of major crimes also dropped in many other US cities during the 1990s, both those that had adopted broken windows policing and those that had not.[41] In the winter 2006 edition of the University of Chicago Law Review, Bernard Harcourt and Jens Ludwig looked at the later Department of Housing and Urban Development program that rehoused inner-city project tenants in New York into more-orderly neighborhoods.[25] The broken windows theory would suggest that these tenants would commit less crime once moved because of the more stable conditions on the streets. However, Harcourt and Ludwig found that the tenants continued to commit crime at the same rate.
Still waiting on real evidence of causation.
Have fun on the streets in your shithole city! Just remember it's made possible by voters like you!
Remember to step over the shit and broken glass, but don't worry the next person won't dare to shit in the same spot!
I don't really care if you believe broken window theory, I don't live around your policies.
I did not slander him as a person, I criticized his way of thinking.
I did insult his hypothetical city, but we're discussing the cause as to why cities are shitholes, it's not slander when it's true.
He wants proof that being lax on crime perpetuates crime, yet ignores decades of basic criminology due to a wikipedia criticism section with no substance.
Words have specific definitions, not what you want to stretch them to to make your snarky point.