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Their Telluride is one of the hottest selling SUVs, it's pretty difficult to buy. Hyundai/Kia seem to be on a tear right now with their newer vehicles.

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I just bought a Telluride on Monday and love it. It is the highest ranked car on Consumer Reports across all vehicle types. I don't think this is an indicator of a company in trouble.

My last 3 cars were Teslas.

Do you still have a Tesla too or got rid of it? Why? If you don't mind me asking, of course.

I've had a Palisade for 2 years (same car basically).

Extremely happy with it. The lane centering is fantastic for high way driving.

Are you happier with it than your teslas?

> My last 3 cars were Teslas.

You bought 3 Teslas back to back?! You must really love it. Why did you then move to the Telluride?

I thought Tesla lasts really long. So why 3?

Cant speak for the OP, but they mightve been leasing them on year long terms

Ah got it. Leasing is virtually not done where I'm from, so it didn't cross my mind.

Pretty much every new car on the market is difficult to buy...

The Telluride’s US sales only hit 93,705 in 2021 well below Honda Pilot at 143,062 and their both dwarfed by 407,739 for the RAV4.

That’s because they projected to sell like 50k.

Also different car markets / segments (small, midsized vs large suv)

Pilot’s length, width, and height are within an inch of each other that seems like the same size category to me. 2022 Telluride is 196.9“ X 78.3” X 68.9” 2022 Honda Pilot is 196.5” X 78.6” X 70.6” and a slightly more expensive MSRP.

The RAV4 is noticeably smaller and cheaper, but still an SUV and seemed like a useful benchmark.

PS: They sold 75,129 in 2020, and 58,604 in 2019, so I don’t think they expected it to tank to 50k in 2021. Still probably supply limited in 2021 but so was just about every car company.

The RAV4 is a behemoth, having sold over 10 million over the years.

Yes, the RAV4 is a benchmark to compare the Telluride to, but they ARE in both different cost brackets and categories. Pilot seems to be a better benchmark.

Another useful benchmark is that for 2021, Toyota global sales were almost 9.6M, Kia was almost 2.8M.

Honda Pilot is a Midsize Crossover SUV, like the Telluride, and had 2021 sales of 143K in the US. Honda global sales were 4.5M in 2021.

So the Telluride can still be a success for Kia, while selling a fraction of the units of the RAV4

Might be a case of the opposite, having hired too much talent and not having enough things to put them onto

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